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| Albert |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 10:16:48
I have several questions.
-Dr. Sarno writes that TMS symptoms happen because the unconscious mind is trying to divert a person's attention away from their repressed emotions. I'm having difficulty grasping this concept. Any thoughts?
-I'm trying to find if I have any repressed rage, and have been thinking about things from my past that I might be inwardly angry about. When I find something I allow myself to feel angry about it, and start cursing the people who have done wrong to me and start growling with a feeling of rage. Is this a good approach? Another thing I've noticed is that due to my "goodness" ideas I've had this idea that I should be beyond getting angry and in the past have admonished myself for getting angry. Whether I get angry seems to be connected to my self image. Right now I'm telling myself that it's okay to get angry, it's part of being human. I don't believe that it will lead to me doing any harm, because I respect and care for people too much to do anything to hurt them. But it should be okay to feel angry towards them and myself on occasion. |
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| Albert |
Posted - 12/31/2004 : 10:52:45
I don't want to name the cult. It isn't well known. It taught that in truth we aren't the body and mind, we are the absolute self which is beyond the body and mind. I was also influenced by the teachings of Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadata Maharaj, Huang Po etc. In the end it seems as if my search was escapist. A matter of not wanting to have to deal with the problems of life just like everybody else. I believed that I would someday transcend life's problems. After much reflection, I now believe that my mind and body are part of who I am, and I need to deal with what this entails. Including the negative parts of my unconscious mind. Perhaps I should have said "mindbody." People tend to think of the mind and body as being separate, when they are in fact one thing.
Regarding Dr. Fatteh, I tried to find his phone number but neither my phone book or information had a listing. I emailed him a couple of days ago but haven't received a response. Perhaps he's busy or on holiday.
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Originally posted by tennis tom
Dear Albert,
What cult did you belong to? I'm just curious, you don't have to mention it if you don't want to. Perhaps the intrinsic teachings and philosophy of the group was worthwhile even if the leadership was self-serving. I feel TMS theory can be compatible with Eastern teachings. Any philosophy that directs one to inward examination seems to me to be a good foundation for doing TMS healing. Perhaps you didn't waste those years and what you learned can be put to use. What are you doing now?
Were you able to contact Dr. Fatteh?
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 22:08:45
Dear Albert,
What cult did you belong to? I'm just curious, you don't have to mention it if you don't want to. Perhaps the intrinsic teachings and philosophy of the group was worthwhile even if the leadership was self-serving. I feel TMS theory can be compatible with Eastern teachings. Any philosophy that directs one to inward examination seems to me to be a good foundation for doing TMS healing. Perhaps you didn't waste those years and what you learned can be put to use. What are you doing now?
Were you able to contact Dr. Fatteh? |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 19:05:54
Trust me Albert, there are many others possessing similar mindviews, myself included. I developed my TMS symptoms at age 17 (I'm 22 now, and have been applying Sarno's paradigm for a few short months now) and went through a period where I felt like I missed out on so many things, when in fact this entire experience is perhaps the best thing that could have ever happened to me (trite as it may sound). Please, don't dwell in the past, it will only hinder your progress, and besides, think of all of the wonderful knowledge you have gained along the way; and the knowledge that is still waiting to be gleaned. May 2005 be happy and healthy for all of us.
Seth |
| Albert |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 11:53:44
Gina:
It's something that developed later in my life. I really got into Eastern meditation etc. for a number of years, and developed the idea that if I'm feeling anger I'm allowing myself to be controlled by the vagaries of the mind. The right thing to do, or so I thought, was to get over the tendency of allowing myself to get angry. The same thing is true for other emotions. I've been taking the stance that if I have enough clarity of my mind, I don't need to be effected by things that usually bug people. Considering that some of the things that supposedly don't bug me do bug me on occasion when I dream, perhaps I've been fooling myself and have been suppressing my needs.
Another thing about that Eastern meditation thing is that I was part of a Cult for several years. For much of my life I thought I would spiritually transcend the World and therefore not need the things that people usually need. I'm 46 years old now, and sometimes get the feeling that I've deprived myself and missed out on a lot of things. For example, sometimes I'll watch a movie that I first watched a number of years ago, and get this melancholy like feeling that during the years that have passed since the movie first came out, I've wasted my life and missed out on a lot. Mostly because of the STUPID idea that I would someday obtain spiritual enlightment and not have the needs of ordinary people. I've haven't felt a lot of anger towards the teachers/gurus etc. that mislead me. Instead I would be philosophical about it. Perhaps anger is in order. |
| Ginag |
Posted - 12/30/2004 : 11:05:23
Albert, Welcome to the TMS group. From reading your description, it sounds like you were raised in a situation where you were discouraged from expressing anger. Did your parents scold you for acting out?? If so, you are the classic example of repressed emotion. In an effort to obey them, you developed the detrimental habit of suppressing anger and rage. The art of suppressing anger does not make it disappear, it only helps it to burrow deeper into the mind and manifest itself in some other horrible ailment. You should acknowledge the anger openly to yourself and remove the guilt associated with it. That should be a first step for you. Hang in there and be confident that you are on the right track. Gina |
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