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| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 16:02:51
I must say, reading the thread "TMS and Work" provided me with quite a bit of valuable insights; bearing in mind my age and the fact that in just a short amount of time I will be "on the market" so to speak. In any event, I just wanted to share what has helped reframe my TMS outlook: accept and surrender.
As I have mentioned before, I bought the Schechter CDs--taking TT's advice--and was particularly struck by CD 3; especially when Don Dubin notes how the key to unlocking TMS is acceptance and surrender.
For some reason this resonated in me profoundly and has (hopefully) changed the way in which I approach TMS. While this is somewhat difficult to articulate, I thought it might be of help to those who are new to the board--seeing that I'm relatively new myself.
Also, yesterday I found myself smoking a little grass again! I know, I know; I swear this is only a recent phenomenon (although I must admit, I have had my fair share of "dabbling"), due in part to the fact that after I developed my full-blown TMS symptoms every time I smoked I would spend the entire time focusing on my body and my symptoms.
I have since tried it again over the past week to prove to myself that I can in fact smoke, enjoy myself, and now fret over my pain; I think of it a form of re-conditioning. So last night I found myself playing with my parrot Paco (he's a cockatiel, and 11 years old to boot!) and thinking about how much I love him. I started to well up a bit and then thought that it probably would be helpful if I didn't hold back, so I starting crying--thinking about how much I love him and how sad it will be when he dies (although cockatiels have been known to live up to 30+ years). Thank god my parents didn't come in! That would have been as bad as the time I woke them up in the middle of the night while I was tripping my face off on hallucinogenic mushrooms--oh the things we do when we're young--but that's a story for another time.
It felt nice to cry as I hadn't done so in a while, although I did find myself at a crossroads whereupon I thought: "should I seize this opportunity and bawl about every thing I can think of (parents, friends, etc.). I decided not to, but could not help to think in the back of my mind while I was crying: "I wonder if the same thing will happen to me as did to the woman in Sarno's case example?" (You know the one where as she was crying everything began to dissipate) Now, I know this is not the proper way to be thinking and am not upset at the fact that nothing resolved right then and there; but my question is: must I try and revisit that state and cry about everything that really bothers me? In all honesty, I'm hoping the answer is no, because it's quite draining.
And getting back to this change in my TMS outlook, it seems a bit unreal: I feel scared, but on the other hand I feel as though someone is pushing me forward and there's no turning back now. Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic?
Also, I must confess that I spell-check my posts after writing them (it's the perfectionist in me!)
Seth |
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| mala |
Posted - 01/28/2005 : 00:07:32
Seth,
Do you know you can delete one of your replies. Look at one of the icons in your own posts, the one with a little rubbish bin. If you click on it you can delete that post. Not that it's necessary though, just thought I'd let you know.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 17:56:12
Sorry for the double post. (I am aware that this message is only compounding the matter.)
Seth |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 17:54:50
Sure, I'll try. I guess the best way to explain it, is that prior to hearing this credo I was very much spending a majority of the day in or pursuing "deep introspection", in the sense that I thought it was a sine non qua for successful TMS treatment. Now keep in mind that I had been reading Sarno, etc. all the while, but somehow did not absorb the notion that this type of thinking was not exactly necessary to the healing process. You know how people say that you have to understand something on a "gut level?"
Trite as it may sound, while I fully understood this, I did not realize that I was in fact eschewing the tenets which I should have been following. Am I confusing the matter? Please let me know and I'll try and clarify.
In any event, I was so focused on the part of me that was afraid of the pain going away, in addition to constantly mulling over the depth and breadth of work that I should be doing, i.e., am I thinking hard enough?
I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that after hearing accept and surrender--surrender in particular--things started to make sense. I had always taken the later term as a sign of ill will, when in fact it is not think about what it takes to surrender to the TMS without being submissive; essentially letting it flow thought you, but not getting frightened.
I am now beginning to understand as well the notion that deep, profound mental investigation--while extremely helpful--is not entirely necessary to achieve success, which I believe runs counter to what we are taught to believe about a psychic investigation of this nature. Even though I read this statement countless times, it wasn't until hearing the tapes that it began to click.
I think I knew I was on to something because by thinking along these lines I was no longer in a comfort zone; it felt difficult and scary, and I finally began to understand why TMS is hard work.
I must admit I am still a neophyte and haven't seen any symptom reduction yet--in fact my headache raged for two days after hearing this on CD 3 and now I have a horrible sore throat.
And without a doubt I would buy the CDs, especially if you haven't seen a TMS doctor--which I haven't. Hope this helps, please let me know if you need me to explain anything further. And lets cross our fingers that this isn't just Seth getting his hopes up!
Seth |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 17:53:31
Sure, I'll try. I guess the best way to explain it, is that prior to hearing this credo I was very much spending a majority of the day in or pursuing "deep introspection", in the sense that I thought it was a sine non qua for successful TMS treatment. Now keep in mind that I had been reading Sarno, etc. all the while, but somehow did not absorb the notion that this type of thinking was not exactly necessary to the healing process. You know how people say that you have to understand something on a "gut level?"
Trite as it may sound, while I fully understood this, I did not realize that I was in fact eschewing the tenets which I should have been following. Am I confusing the matter? Please let me know and I'll try and clarify.
In any event, I was so focused on the part of me that was afraid of the pain going away, in addition to constantly mulling over the depth and breadth of work that I should be doing, i.e., am I thinking hard enough?
I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that after hearing accept and surrender--surrender in particular--things started to make sense. I had always taken the later term as a sign of ill will, when in fact it is not think about what it takes to surrender to the TMS without being submissive; essentially letting it flow thought you, but not getting frightened.
I am now beginning to understand as well the notion that deep, profound mental investigation--while extremely helpful--is not entirely necessary to achieve success, which I believe runs counter to what we are taught to believe about a psychic investigation of this nature. Even though I read this statement countless times, it wasn't until hearing the tapes that it began to click.
I think I knew I was on to something because by thinking along these lines I was no longer in a comfort zone; it felt difficult and scary, and I finally began to understand why TMS is hard work.
I must admit I am still a neophyte and haven't seen any symptom reduction yet--in fact my headache raged for two days after hearing this on CD 3 and now I have a horrible sore throat.
And without a doubt I would buy the CDs, especially if you haven't seen a TMS doctor--which I haven't. Hope this helps, please let me know if you need me to explain anything further. And lets cross our fingers that this isn't just Seth getting his hopes up!
Seth |
| Hilary |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 16:51:45
Seth - can you say a bit more about this concept of accept and surrender in the context of TMS? How exactly does this work in TMS treatment? I am considering buying the Schechter CDs as they've been mentioned a few times here. |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/27/2005 : 16:08:29
Also, I forgot to add, when I was crying it felt a bit "forced", and now I'm feeling guilty (TMS I know) that it wasn't "authentic" enough--whatever this may mean.
Seth |
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