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Laura
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 Posted - 08/08/2005 : 15:21:22
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I know I've mentioned this on other threads but I highly recommend Dr. Wayne Dyer's book The Power of Intention. Wow! What an eye opener. Read the chapter on healing. It will blow you away.
Laura
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art
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Posted - 08/09/2005 : 15:16:11
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Hi Laura....
Brief synopsis of that chapter?
Many thanks,
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Laura
USA
655 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2005 : 18:31:53
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Art,
This book is all about giving you your power back to change your health and to change any other aspect of your life if you so choose. On the back of the book, Dr. Dyer writes "Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change." On the front cover, it says "Dr. Wayne Dyer has researched intention as a force in the universe that allows the act of creation to take place. This book explores intention - not as something you do - but as an energy you're a part of. We're all intended here through the invisible power of intention. This is the first book to look at intention as a field of energy you can access to begin co-creating your life."
Forgive me, but I'm not too good at giving a synopsis, so instead I'll just share some of the key points. Chapter thirteen, entitled "It is my intention to: Optimize my capacity to heal and to be healed" was the one I skipped ahead to, in light of my endless quest to heal myself. One of the key points reads "From thoughts of sickness to intentions of wellness" and Dr. Dyer talks about negative thoughts or negative energy as being "resistance" to getting what you want (perfect health). Dr. Dyer writes "You're probably familiar with the phrase "And God intended, 'Let there be light!' and there was light," from the Old Testament. If you look in an English-Hebrew dictionary, you'll find that the English translation of the Hebrew can be read as "And God intended..."The decision to create is the decision to intend. To create healing, YOU CAN'T HAVE THOUGHTS OF ILLNESS AND ANTICIPATE YOUR BODY FALLING VICTIM TO DISEASE (my caps). Become aware of the thoughts you have that support the idea of sicness as something to be expected. Begin notcing the frequency of those thoughts. The more they occupy your mental landscape, the more RESISTANCE you're creating to realizing your intention." Dr. Dyer says negative thoughts "are like huge barricades blocking the realization of your intenion. Notice the thoughts that represent a decision on your part to buy into the illness mentality of the huge profit-making drug companies and a health care industry that thrives on your fears." Amen! Dr. Dyer believes that by holding a positive outlook "You can go within and hold an intention that says: I want to feel good, I intend to feel good, I intend to return to my Source (God), and I refuse to allow any other thoughts of dis-order or dis-ease in." He says "You'll feel empowered by this unique experience. Then in any given moment of not feeling well, choose thoughts of healing and feeling good. In that instant, feeling good takes over, if only for a few seconds."
Dr. Dyer also states "When you refuse to live in low energy and you work moment by moment to introduce thoughts that support your intention, you've effectively decided that wellness is your choice and that being a healer is a part of that decision." He also says "Illness is not a punishment."
Dr. Dyer gives various steps to implement into your life. Step 9 says "Allow health to stream into your life. Become conscious of resistance, which interferes with the natural flow of healthy energy to you. This resistance is in the form of your THOUGHTS. ANY THOUGHT THAT'S OUT OF SYNC WITH THE SEVEN FACES OF INTENTION IS A RESISTANT THOUGHT. ANY THOUGHT THAT SAYS THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HEAL IS A RESISTANT THOUGHT. ANY THOUGHT OF DOUBT OR FEAR IS A RESISTANT THOUGHT. When you observe these thoughts, note them carefully and then deliberately activate thoughts that are in energetic, vibrational balance with the all-providing Source of intention."
This is a sampling of the book. I find it to be a very wonderful, empowering outlook on life. As I am reading this book, I am becoming aware of all the negative thoughts that run through my head like toxic poison through a river. I realize that my negative thinking creates more and more of what I don't want, which is dizziness and a feeling of being unwell. Dr. Dyer also talks about the importance of meditation and I have implemented that into my daily routine now as well. It is amazing what 20 minutes of quiet can do for your soul.
Every time I have a negative thought, I remind myself "I want to feel good," "I intend to feel good" and "My body is whole and perfect." Let me tell you, I see a difference already.
Go online and check out the book. You can even read a small part of it on one of the websites.
Happy reading.
Laura
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2005 : 19:48:58
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| Ive read this book too and I 2nd what Laura says. It just shows that being healthy isn't anything new, and many authors have written about TMS (although not by name) for years. Dyer cites authors from centuries ago that mention this stuff. |
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Curiosity18
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2005 : 23:46:11
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Laura,
I am familiar with that book. I asked Don (TMS therapist) Dubin about its ideas and he didn't think that it really got to the TMS issues. He seems to think that you need to focus on the core (largely unconscious)negative feelings and beliefs about the self, and that you need to completely stay them deeply enough and long enough, until you really experience being deficient or not good enough (or whatever your core issues happen to be), and you make peace with it eventually. Supposedly, then your symptoms go away. I have yet to have experienced this. Has anyone else?
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PeterW
Canada
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Posted - 08/10/2005 : 09:59:07
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To me this question is at the essence of approaching mindbody healing - there seems to be (at least) two schools of thought, which admittedly have me somewhat confused.
There's the more popular approach of Wayne Dyer and many others which is along the lines of recognizing negative and self destructive thought patterns (presumably concious ones) and changing these thoughts to more positive ones. IE empowering your life and your health by changing and purifying your intention.
They also talk about how continued negative emotions can affect one's health. As I interpret it, there seems to be an aspect of not ALLOWING yourself to experience these negative thoughts and emotions, ie recognizing them and pushing them aside, or changing them quickly to more positive ones so we dont get stuck in negative thought patterns.
Uhhmm, could this actually be a form of repression of these negative emotions, exactly what Sarno and TMS theory say you shouldn't do? They seem to indicate that you need to swim about in them awhile and try to understand the core issues at their root. And the problem is that we've spent our whole lives pushing aside our negative feelings and not experiencing them, leading to a huge reservoir of unconcious pent up anger and frustration.
Can anyone who's been at this awhile help here?
I have read Sarno but not Dwyer - just seen him talk on public television, so I'm probably oversimplifying. I'd like to check it out though.
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Suz
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Posted - 08/10/2005 : 10:15:16
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I am a bit confused too by this. It sounds like Don Dubin is saying that we have to feel the negative pain before we can let it go. Maybe that refers to the 5/10% who go on to therapy.
Curiosity, I would be interested to hear more of what Dubin
I believe that Dyer's book might be good in that it reminds us that our minds are conditioned - and that it really isn't a physical/structural problem. Every time we focus on the pain - and get caught up in fear, we are feeding the problem. Dyer is just saying what Sarno is saying in a different way. |
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Laura
USA
655 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 10:50:28
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Yes, Suz, I believe that's correct. Hey, the book may not be for everone, I agree. I'm just saying that for me it's helping me in a way that I've never been helped before. I've always been sort of a negative person, which hasn't helped my TMS in any way. Dr. Dyer's words have helped me to empower myself to think more positively, much in the same way Louise Hay's book does, i.e. replacing negative thoughts with positive, joyous thoughts. I need this.
I've been working on my TMS for awhile now, and lately have felt stuck in a rut. This book was the exact thing I needed to push me in the direction I'm trying to go. I've noticed a definite decline in the dizziness, with the exception of a couple brief episodes yesterday when I was feeling stressed.
I'm not sure if Dr. Sarno would agree with it or not. I'm just saying that I really am enjoying feeling like I have some control over my reactions to things. And, if nothing else, I'm sleeping so much better this week! I'm feeling much more at peace. I love this book and I love the changes I'm seeing in myself. Bless Dr. Dyer for all of his work! I cannot wait to meet this man some day.
Laura
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Suz
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Posted - 08/10/2005 : 15:56:05
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Very interesting, Laura. I am so glad this book has had such a positive affect on you. I actually think that Dyer is talking about God but in a way that doesn't sound too freaky for people who have a hard time with that word ( that doesn't apply to you because I don't know where you stand on this) My faith teaches me that the power of the universe etc. etc. (God) can heal all things and lies inside all of us. We are not doing the healing, he is - but we have to reach out to him. Over these last awful two weeks, I turned to my faith more than normal. I spent more time in prayer and actually went to Church this morning which is unusual for me in the week time. Even though I am experiencing pain at night, during the day I feel much calmer and more peaceful from doing this extra activity. The difference is very profound in how I am coping with things. i find I am less irritated by people and have more patience, kindness and tolerance. I can be downright difficult and demanding so I need to work on this a lot!
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art
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Posted - 08/10/2005 : 17:41:17
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Thanks for that Laura. It was a lovely, detailed synopsis so you are obviously much better at such a thing than you give yourself credit for.
Much of that sounds very much in harmony with much of my own thinking these days concerning illness and healing. As to negative thoughts...I simply try to ignore them and move on when they occur.
I've tried meditation off and on for years, but have to be the world's worst meditator. A Yiddish word that my grandmother used to use comes to mind but I don't know how to spell it...shpilkes would be the phonetic spelling I think..Just a kind of relentless restlessness..
What works for me best is an hour or even two of exercise almost every day...I've a variety of stuff I can do so I never have to do the same thing two days in a row...I run, and bike, and kickbike (kind of a scooter in a bike contraptions) and also a truly wonderful piece of equipment called a Trikke...Anyone interested in a machine that mimics skiing on dry land should definitely check it out on line at Trikke.Com (I'm in no way connected with them)...It's a fabulous all-over workout and at the same time very meditative in a way that I can't really explain...It's also a blast..
I seem to have gotten off topic...Sorry for that, but I'm having so much fun with it I can't help passing it on...Generally speaking, working out is playing a huge part in my revovery...Thank God for Dr. Sarno and TMS because otherwise I'd be much too busy resting and "recovering" from supposed injuries to be able to workout almost every day of the week...Just no way would I have been able to do that even in the pretty recent past.. |
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Curiosity18
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2005 : 21:24:38
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Suz,
you had asked more about Don Dubin's views on TMS work. In my experience he has primarily focused on accessing negative Core beliefs and feelings, as well is fully experiencing them-- not much in the way of positive self talk,or consciously shifting from negative thinking to positive thinking. It's almost as though when you feel bad enough, long enough about yourself, you experience a peaceful feeling (maybe you reach self-acceptance) and then your symptoms supposedly go away. Has anyone else had this experience? I have not yet been successful, and it's been very frustrating. Maybe I need to look more into Dyer's work.
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Jim1999
USA
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Posted - 08/10/2005 : 23:02:41
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Curiosity,
Yes, I've experienced that. It may seem paradoxical, but even with physical treatments, you sometimes have to feel worse before you can feel better. For example, a broken bone will feel worse when the doctor is setting it, but this is a necessary step for the patient to get better.
With TMS, I think that there is often a battle between the repressed emotions and the repressive forces. There is always a tension between the two. When some of these emotions are dealt with (either by feeling the emotions or just acknowledging their presence), some of the tension is released, so there is a sense of being more at peace. I have noticed that sense of peace afterwards, and my symptoms do tend to get better or go away. I recovered from TMS six years ago, but sometimes it's still a struggle to keep TMS from coming back.
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Curiosity18
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 13:49:33
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Jim 1999,
Will you please say more about your experience with staying with the emotions, feeling that sense of peace, with your symptoms then going away? I don't seem to get any where with this except feeling more hopeless, without any lessening of the pain. Maybe I haven't wallowed in the feelings long enough, but at a certain point in this process it almost seems destructive and counter-productive. I'm referring to giving in to all the negative thoughts and feelings about myself (i.e.I'll never get better, I'LL never be good enough, I'll never be better, etc.) that Mr. Dubin thinks I should be doing in this work. I'm obviously missing something, and I'd really appreciate your comments.
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leegold
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 16:09:13
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solomon said 'as a man thinks in his heart, so is he' i think that sums up what dyer is saying. we will never receive what we don't first believe. and what we believe will be what we say- and words and thoughts have the power to direct our life (if u dont believe that, look at where your life is and the thoughts and words you used to get u there). many say 'i'll believe it when i see it' and what really needs to be said is 'when i believe it i'll see it'
sow a thought-reap an action
sow an action- reap a habit
sow a habit- reap a character
sow a character- reap a destiny!
keep thinking good thoughts and saying good words, all!
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leegold
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 16:12:49
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also-
i have found that creating and saying daily affirmations (in the mirror is best) has helped me overcome many things in the past thru the use of new words and new thoughts spoken and thought on purpose. we are transformed by the renewing of our minds.
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 16:52:29
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Thank you for that, Lee. I do believe you are right! What we think about is what we get more and more of. I like the idea about looking in the mirror when doing daily affirmations. Louise Hay suggests this and I have been meaning to try it.
Towards the end of Dr. Dyer's book, he describes a person who is connected to the field of intention. Dr. Dyer says that these people, if you engaged them in conversation, would say something like "I refuse to think about what can't happen, because I'll attract exactly what I think about, so I only think about what I know will happen." He goes on to say "It doesn't matter to them what's happened before. They don't relate to the concepts of failure or "it's impossible." I love his philosophy, which is so the opposite of what mine has been for so long, negative. Of course, with everyone else I'm positive and I always think only the best will happen. It's just, I haven't learned to be positive with myself. I think this book is really an important tool for someone like me who needs to learn how to think differently about life. It will surely affect my health, my relationships, and everything else. I am already seeing results!
Have a nice weekend everyone!
Laura
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Jim1999
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 22:59:58
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Originally posted by Curiosity18
Jim 1999,
Will you please say more about your experience with staying with the emotions, feeling that sense of peace, with your symptoms then going away? I don't seem to get any where with this except feeling more hopeless, without any lessening of the pain. Maybe I haven't wallowed in the feelings long enough, but at a certain point in this process it almost seems destructive and counter-productive. I'm referring to giving in to all the negative thoughts and feelings about myself (i.e.I'll never get better, I'LL never be good enough, I'll never be better, etc.) that Mr. Dubin thinks I should be doing in this work. I'm obviously missing something, and I'd really appreciate your comments.
Curiosity18
Sure, I could say more. I've noticed something by looking at the section I bolded, plus this comment from your previous posting: "accessing negative Core beliefs and feelings". These seem to be general.
From what I've read in Dr. Sarno's books and what I've experienced, I have to target emotions related to something very specific. For example, I didn't think about not being good enough in general. Instead, I thought about the time I felt like a failed a specific co-worker at my first full-time job. This co-worker didn't speak up for himself enough and got edged out by office politics. To say that I failed him was being irrationally hard on myself, which must be why I repressed the emotion. Focusing on the emotion of this specific situation allowed me to deal with that emotion, so that no repression (or less repression) was needed for that specific issue. This is the type of thing that created a sense of peace, which usually was very brief. Then it was time for me to move on to the next issue.
I believe that being very specific was critical to my recovery. If instead of thinking of that specific person, I had thought that I'm always failing my co-workers in general, I doubt that I would have made much progress. And I can see how that would be demoralizing: I could have spent hours on end thinking about such negative things without making any progress.
I hope this helps.
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Another book recommendation
