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Marg
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 Posted - 08/13/2005 : 14:28:54
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| So the forum thinks it can tell who are fraudsters and who are not? That is interesting. My whole life I have known quietly that I don't quite fit in. I have a sucessful marriage etc etc but something was not quite right. So, not surprisingly I have TMS, which explains alot for me. But, then I discover I don't fit into the TMS forum either. That was weird, and a little hurtful. May I said somethings you guys don't want to hear, but Dr Sarno talked to me via e-mail so maybe I wasn't totally off track. I was the one who said that there is still a place for a good physio. A physio who focuses on fixing the person and not the visible problem. He nearly got it right. My Physio has the courage to listen to Dr Sarno, he has learnt a lot and his patients will benefit. With the Physio's help and the help of his co-partner the Psychologist and Private trainer We are expecting to see good results. My opinion of Dr Sarno is that he wants his message heard, I am sure he does not want Physios etc to lose their jobs and to end up with egg on their faces. Maybe New Zealand is different, as some-one said the public health service pays our health bills. Maybe it is a country like New Zealand that we will see the real change that needs to happen. Do these comments of mine make me a fraudster among us? Or do they make me some-one who thinks Dr Sarno is a man before his time, (in my opinion we are only 10 years away from this really being big), but we need to retrain our Physios so that they can really do some good. Marg |
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art
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Posted - 08/13/2005 : 16:46:42
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Hi Marg,
I've never seen anyone personally attacked for advancing an idea on this forum, whether pro or con Dr. Sarno and his TMS theory. I hope I didn't give you the wrong idea with my impulsive and unfortunate response to a new poster recently. That is in no way indicative of how things generally go here. |
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Suz
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Posted - 08/13/2005 : 20:37:07
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Marg,
What would the physios do? I thought there whole purpose was to mainly treat back pain - focus on muscle strengthening exercises for the back and lots of massage. I did this for 10 years on and off for my back and sciatic pain. It helped for a few days and then I needed to go back. I paid so many dollars in co-payments etc. It was all a waste of my time as I had TMS. It kept me totally focused on the physical. Although I guess physio is very important for people after they have had major accidents - broken a leg or something and need to get their body back into shape.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, marg. I like your posts as they are always very insightful |
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Marg
New Zealand
24 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2005 : 21:40:45
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| Suz, Firstly, the Psychologist is clearly going to take on a far bigger role than previous. He needs to be talking very frequently to the Physio. I see the role of a good Physio as being an educator, the big support person, the one who really helps you to believe in yourself, the goal setter, the helping you to find that inner strength. The Physio will be supporting the Psychologist, and anyway Physios are far cheaper. My Physio has the gym, he arranges the finances to pay gym fees, his fees and the private trainer fees, some patients get to work out with the Boxing man. That would have been fun. The good Physio, gets you out on the mountain bike and running and tramping. Unfortunately, he didn't get rid of the pain. He never had those pieces for the puzzle. Dr Sarno supplied those, and WOW thank you very much Dr Sarno. |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/14/2005 : 05:24:00
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Hi Marg,
I used the term fraudster in a message. I meant to say flamer (I think) - anyway, someone who deliberately starts arguments with message board users. There had been some contradictory messages on the board a few weeks back and Dave removed the thread. That's what I was referring to, not anything you said.
I don't think they have physiotherapists much in the States. I think they call them physical trainers here.
A physio supporting a psychologist sounds ideal.
anne
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Fredarm57
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Posted - 08/14/2005 : 18:10:45
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I believe a "physiotherapist" is what we would call a "physical therapist" in the USA. I believe that there can be a role for a physical therapist in some TMS cases where the patient has such a fear of getting moving again that it takes some real encouragement to get going. However, it has to be the right kind of physical (physio) therapist as Marg notes, one who is either familar with TMS or at least receptive to learning about it, as Marg's is. Fred
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Just testing to see what happens
