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Michele

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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  07:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isn't that just triggering our brain to create pain? Sort of what the doctors have been doing to us all along? I was told my pain was caused by arthritis and it would continue to get worse. I don't believe them, because I have more arthritis on the other side of my body that doesn't hurt. So as I was listening to Dr. Schechter's CD this morning on the way to work, I keyed in on a sentence: TMS is a painful condition caused by the autonomic nervous system . . .

After working at this for almost 8 weeks, I've had good days and bad days. Today is one of the worse days I've had in a long, long time. I even screamed at the TMS and told it to knock it off, to no avail. It is so bad in fact, that I'm afraid I'm going to fall down while walking. Every time I need to get up and walk in the office, I'm screaming at my head to "just walk", "there is no pain", but I'm having little success.

So why are told that it is painful?!?

tennis tom

USA
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  10:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Michele, Your pain IS real! As you stated, though, it is not from arthritis. It is from TMS. The pain you feel is caused by a slight lessening of oxygen to the muscles in the region. As the Good Doctor's TMS theory states, it is physically HARMLESS, but EXCRUSCIATEINGLY painful. It is like a cramp in the middle of the night. I recall, as a child, the first time I got one. I woke up in a panic, thinking I had somehow broken my leg in my sleep. A very scarey experience, similar to the several anxiety attacks I have experienced as an adult. This was, probably, what they call growing pains.

As I write this post, that connection, has bestowed on me a flash of enlightnment--that, TMS pain, may be analogous to "ADULT GROWING PAINS". The difficulty being, that as adults, we are much less resilient to coming back from our pains than we were as children, both physically and psychologically. But we can definitely overcome them, it just takes us a little longer to warmup.

Good luck Michele, hope this helps.
tt
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Suz

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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  10:10:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Michele,
It sounds like your pain is awful - I am so sorry. However, I would try and focus on the emotional things that are bothering you - as soon as you feel the pain, switch to emotions. I found this challenging at the beginning because my sciatic pain was excruciating - now it is becoming more second nature to me. My pain has reduced and right now I have no pain in the sciatic - just some weird back pain at night time. I am getting better at feeling emotions and recognising them.
Are you reading the two Sarno books and journalling? I know this is all quite time consuming. Sometimes, I don't feel like it after a long day at work, but it really helps. You are in the process of reeducating your unconscious - it takes time and perseverance.
It will work.
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Michele

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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  10:32:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm trying, I'm really trying. Do you think I should keep thinking psychological when I'm laying on the floor? Sorry, I couldn't resist, but I'm actually nervous about falling.

I'm reading the two Sarno books, the Dr. Sopher book, doing the Dr. Schechter workbook and listening to the Schechter CDs. It's all I do anymore.

I must have a really stubborn brain. Thanks for your concern Suz.
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iyusaf

USA
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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  11:02:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Michele: Do you think I should keep thinking psychological when I'm laying on the floor?
You've said this jokingly, but laying on the floor (couch or bed) may be a good time to 'think' psychological. You might find yourself accessing your emotional pain more readily while taking away some of the painful physical distraction.

The intense physical pain is your mindbody's defense against equally intense emotional pain. Both are very real.

Good luck!


Edited by - iyusaf on 10/18/2004 22:41:44
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Stryder

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Posted - 10/05/2004 :  18:47:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ala Dr. Sarno, The TMS pain is muscle pain, caused by your emotions. Your nervous system sends signals to your muscles to cause pain to distract you from your unconscious repressed rage. -Stryder
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mala

Hong Kong
774 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2004 :  00:22:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Michele,
I am sorry to hear that you are in pain. When you have had pain for a long time the brain-pain circuit doesn't know how to switch off. The initial pain could may have been becoz of a minor injury, a pull or a strain or maybe like tt says lack of oxygen to that area. Normally, any site of injury should heal but in some cases it doesn't. That is tms.

You somehow need to break this brain- pain circuit. What you are doing like shouting at it is good but you could also try other things such as thinking emtionally, ignoring the pain, trying to divert your attention elsewhere, exercising. or taking something to ease the pain like a painkiller.

The idea is to somehow break this brain-pain circuit. How you do it is by doing what works for you. Everyone is different. The most important thing is to REMEMBER THAT IT IS NOT ARTHRITIS WHICH IS THE CAUSE OF YOUR PAIN. I do hope you feel better soon.

Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
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