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entheogens
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 Posted - 05/07/2007 : 15:18:03
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It seems like Sarno focuses on repressed anger. Why is that? It occurs to me that sadness is another emotion that is repressed. I work in the corporate world and I can't believe all those ****-eating grins that greet me in the corridors are authentic!
What are the consequences of repressed sadness for example? |
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art
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Posted - 05/07/2007 : 17:42:15
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| I believe Dr. Sarno bases his theory on repressed rage because anger is a kind of emotional last stop...Pain, no matter the source, is enraging to the unconscious mind...Think of the unconscious mind as a kind of ferral animal. Hurt it and it instinctively lashes out to stop the pain. |
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Shary
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Posted - 05/07/2007 : 18:55:31
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As I've indicated in other posts, I think for some of us it goes deeper than just repressed anger. I think TMS can stem from virtually any incident, situation, and/or emotion that gets shoved beneath the surface because it's too overwhelming to face. I think you just have to bite the bullet and get everything out into the open before you know which issues can be dismissed and which ones are the real culprits.
Regarding those bogus grins, I think it's often a knee-jerk reaction. Everybody has their problems and sometimes the last thing they feel like doing is smiling. It's just an ingrained thing we do that's considered to be polite. I once had a friend and co-worker who would frequently give me a blank stare and walk right past me when I said hello, just depending on how sociable she was feeling that particular day. I don't see this as being okay either. I'd probably rather get the **** eating grin. |
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sonora sky
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2007 : 20:46:50
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Aren't anger and rage at the bottom of sadness? I've found that underneath my desperate, deepest sadness (often connected to experiences of loss) is firey rage. For example, the loss of a loved one causes sadness/grief, but if you look further, you find anger: towards the person for dying and abandoning you (remember, rage is not rational), towards yourself because these events were out of your control (you could not keep them from dying), and possibly at the world or at 'god' for giving you the short end of the stick (why ME?).
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mizlorinj
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 06:54:10
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Dr. Sarno does focus mainly on anger (rage), but on other emotions too in his later books. I recall reading about sadness (which in its unbalanced state can lead to depression), as well as fear and guilt.
There is a program called The Solution (Laurel Mellin author or books or check www.thepathway.org) that deals with expressing emotions and those are the 4 main painful emotions--anger, sadness, fear, guilt. In that order. Through the Solution program I have gotten a lot of these negative emotions off me and faced things that bothered me. This helped in the TMS treatment of journaling: when I had bad TMS pain a few months back, my journaling was: topic on top of page, then started with anger about whatever, then sadness, etc. and ended with how I can deal with the situation/person, etc. in a balanced way so I'm not harming myself by resentment.
I love how you guys talked about the people you run into in the corporate world. I had to smile because I'm sure we all have experienced someone we KNOW is being phony toward us. I know everyone does not like me but you know what, as long as I haven't done anything to them, their issue with me is THEIR problem--it's not about me--it's about THEM.
Best wishes, 
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entheogens
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:03:33
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Originally posted by Shary
Regarding those bogus grins, I think it's often a knee-jerk reaction. Everybody has their problems and sometimes the last thing they feel like doing is smiling. It's just an ingrained thing we do that's considered to be polite.
Perhaps, but I dont think so. In my opinion, the one book that I honestly would not mind seeing BURNED is Carnegie's "How To Make Friends and Influence People". It is the bible of corporate duplicity. That smile has become part of the technology of ruthlessness with a smiley. Of course, some people just start doing it because they see everybody else do it and want to conform. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 11:47:27
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If you read Nancy Selridge's TMS book she clearly states that pinpointing the exact emotion is not important. What is important is the process of thinking psycholically and thus making the link between your physical symptoms and your repressed emotions. Don't get caught up with the idea of having to uncover a specific emotion before you can recover. I highly recommend you get her book as it has very practical suggestions. The tite of the book is "Freedom From Fibromyalgia" (an extrme manifeation of TMS).
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miehnesor
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 16:28:49
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Repressed rage is the most important TMS producing emotion because it is precisely anger that is the most rejected childhood emotion wrt our relationship with our source figures.
Bradshaw talks about the narcissitic wound of our source figures and the need for them to get their needs met through their child. The parent may be looking for admiration from the child if they did not get it from their parents. Anger is the emotion that feels least like admiration so it get rejected by the parent and in the child. The child will only display emotions that are acceptable to the parent.
Rage is also the most terrifying emotion for a child and their ego's will kick in to protect this feeling from surfacing. The release of rage can be life threatening to the child. TDM has some good examples of this like Adler's case where he realized the destructive rage towards his father and used TMS to guard against it.
While I do believe rage is the most important TMS emotion I also believe that it acts as a sort of protective shell for even deeper feelings of emotional pain, sadness and aloneness. TDM has an interesting example of this as well. I can relate to this as it has also been my experience. Feeling these deeper feelings is very healing both emotionally and physically(TMS). |
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jst
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 : 16:50:39
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| Shawnsmith, do you remember the explanation that Nancy Selridge used when she said that and uncovering the exact emotion that might be causing the TMS isn't important? |
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