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Ace1
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 Posted - 08/10/2014 : 11:10:09
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| Get the audio book "When the body says no" by Gabor Mate. It is excellent! It talks about all diseases including cancer and autoimmune diseases. It clearly explains repression which sometimes is hard to understand. He also gives some tips at the end. I was very impressed by this book. I hope it can further help some of you out there. It may not be enough by itself but it helps in the understanding and helps to strengthen ones belief in the mind body connection. He also supports what he says by many studies and case histories. |
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RageSootheRatio
Canada
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Posted - 08/10/2014 : 11:37:59
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Hi Ace1,
I'm happy it was Gabor Mate's book that you posted about. There are also some excellent video clips of him (on YouTube).
BTW, we first talked about this in May of 2013 in your Keys To Healing thread:
BTW, if you ever have a chance to watch the Gabor Mate video (http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/media/dr-gabor-mat%C3%A9-how-stress-can-cause-disease.39/) that Plum first posted, (he wrote When the Body Says No and other books) I would be VERY interested in your take on it ... especially the part where he talks about, as a family doctor, he would see patients who start out healthy and then who get sick (unlike specialists, who generally see patients who are already well into an illness)... and then he says something like he could really see that generally the people who got sick demonstrated certain emotional patterns...
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 08/14/2014 : 11:33:16
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Hi rsr
I listened to the video and it is along the same lines as the audio book. I think he mentions specific scenarios where the patient picks up habits/personality traits that result in them straining their nerves all the time. So he gives some tips on how to act in certain ways as not to strain your nerves but he never mentions the rush thing or living outside of the present moment bc he thinks of just social things as the problem. If you fix everything in your life except for the rush thing, you will still be sick. So in other words he talks more on the big picture which leads to sensitized nerves and tension which in turn causes illness. What one needs to know it is the strain/sensitized nerves that's the root problem along with the concept of being more strained in conditioned situations, which then allows a change in behavior to stop the further sensitization of nerves.
Any doctor cued in to the concepts of strain and illness will be able to see it. There are so many general physicians who did not come up with the same conclusions as mate. Therefore I'm not sure that his experience as a family doctor was why he saw what he saw. He seems to frequently quote a dr by the name of Hans Selye who wrote a book on the subject of stress and disease and I wonder if that is how he was cued into his current theories |
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RageSootheRatio
Canada
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Posted - 08/17/2014 : 14:04:15
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THANKS very much, Ace1!
I was particularly struck by your comment:
>If you fix everything in your life except for the rush thing, you will still be sick.
I continue to work on this.
BTW about Seyle, who is very famous in Canada (hence the connection to Mate):
'The term “stress”, as it is currently used was coined by Hans Selye in 1936, who defined it as “the non-specific response of the body to any demand for change”.'
RSR
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tmsjptc
USA
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Posted - 08/18/2014 : 11:12:28
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Ace, thanks very much for the recommendation. I got this audiobook last week and find that it definitely has a lot of explanation and information that helps with the understanding and confidence that stress (through repression) takes a significant toll on the body. I know that he focuses on the autoimmune system diseases but there are some of the cases where he mentions that those patients had also experienced other things we would say fall under the TMS umbrella. It is actually making me thankful to have had chronic pain since it is a better wake up call than developing a disease that takes your life. I don't think it was his experience as a family doctor that helped him see it either. From what I've read thus far, it seems he bases more of his observations on his palliative care work than from being a family doctor.
Again, thanks for recommending. For someone who's experienced a lot of relief from symptoms but hasn't quite completed the process, this book has been helpful because it is pointing out some of the cause and effect relationship that I was not aware of. |
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2014 : 19:59:48
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| Your welcome tmsjptc, I'm glad you liked it. I hope it helps you to speed along your complete healing! Yes I felt the same way that I was lucky to have pain instead of one of these horrible illnesses. I'll bet that most of these folks started out with some milder form of TMS before the onset of these disease. It just that they probably seemed so insignificant in comparison to the diseases that took their lives, that they probably weren't mentioned. |
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 08/22/2014 : 19:16:30
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Hi Ace,
Haven't been around here for ages. Just popped in and saw this post. Very interesting.
Though, I had a question and wondered if you could elaborate. Heck, this seems like it could be a whole thread of its own. You said...
What one needs to know it is the strain/sensitized nerves that's the root problem along with the concept of being more strained in conditioned situations, which then allows a change in behavior to stop the further sensitization of nerves.
Do you mind breaking that down and maybe giving some background on exactly what you mean? |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2014 : 10:48:17
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| Bryan. Really my keys to healing are the break down of that statement and provides the details of how to recover. You just have to know that your nerves are set off easily by anger/fear, or being in a rush but your mind associates and remembers (forms habits from repetitive behavior). This means that when you try to change and your able to succeed, encountering similar situations where your nerves were strained repetitively will strain your nerves automatically despite you trying to achieve peace. That is the big picture |
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One of the best audio books I have ever listened
