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Ms. Me
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 Posted - 05/19/2015 : 09:32:58
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One year ago, my mom had a serious case of shingles (in and above right eye, spreading onto forehead). She still experiences intermittent shooting pain, discomfort and sensitivity on that side of her forehead. I read a previous thread on this site that said shingles cannot be considered tms, but that the longer period of discomfort can be. My mom is very familiar with Dr. Sarno's work and has had (and self healed) tms in the past, related to other health challenges. Can anyone speak to the shingles issue or share their experience? Thank you very much.
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susan828
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Posted - 05/19/2015 : 19:23:18
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I haven't had shingles but have had herpes on the roof of my mouth for many years. Like any herpes or shingles, the nerve is activated and hurts. What your mother has is post-herpetic neuralgia. I would not equate it with TMS. It just happens, particularly if the person does not get a shot of acyclovir within the first 48 hours when symptoms appear.
Has she tried topical Zovirax? It's near they so this might not be safe. There are some drugs...I imagine you have googled post-herpetic neuralgia by now in your research. My opinion is that everything isn't TMS. I would take the conventional route so she can get some relief.
Stress CAN exacerbate any herpes type of pain, so that's the connection. I get outbreaks the very next day when I am severely stressed. |
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icelikeaninja
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2015 : 20:19:12
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Hi, Ill offer my 2 cents.
One of my coworkers had herpes above his eye lid. He had pain for awhile everytime he blinked or even when he would lay down on his pillow.
He went to a herpes specialist who said it sounded like post herp pain but that its variable from person to person. The doctor prescribed lyrica but also said that the times my friend got pain and the things that exacerbate it didnt make sense.
So I told my friend about Sarno and there is a part where he mentions herpes etc and that it is a dysfunction in the immune system and should be treated as TMS.
Low and behold he applied all of Sarnos theory and his pain was gone within 3 months and he didnt take any of his meds. I see him fairly often and he doesnt appear to have any issues going on with his eye either. I will ask if he takes any suppressive meds but he seems fine and this was over 5 years ago.
Not saying shingles is tms, it isnt but factors lead to you getting it and factors lead to you getting over it.
I am not a doctor but this is just what I observed. People have healed themselves from much worst we see it all the time.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2015 : 08:57:35
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From a Yelp review of Dr. Schechter:
"5.0 star rating 2/10/2015
You don't know how great your doctor is until you really need him. I was diagnosed late Friday with Shingles at an urgent care center (too late at night to see Dr. Schechter). By Sunday my eye was nearly swollen shut and I was freaking out. Shingles in your eye is no joke. I took a chance and paged Dr. Schechter. He called me right back. Asked a ton of questions, put me at ease and made sure I got it in with his ophthalmologist first thing Monday morning. All is well thank god but his call on Sunday and quick action made all the difference. Great Doctor. Great staff. Thank you so much Dr. Schechter!" |
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summabody
Canada
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Posted - 05/28/2015 : 16:19:23
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This is a great book to read on the mind-body connection between skin disorders and the subconscious. This doc has helped many people heal including those with herpes virus from controlling herpes outbreaks and warts, both of which are caused by a virus but triggered by the psyche. The book has 16 references to shingles.
http://grossbart.com/SkinDeep.pdf
If the link doesn't work it's "Skin Deep" by Dr. Grossbart |
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Ms. Me
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Posted - 05/30/2015 : 15:27:32
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Thank you!
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Originally posted by susan828
I haven't had shingles but have had herpes on the roof of my mouth for many years. Like any herpes or shingles, the nerve is activated and hurts. What your mother has is post-herpetic neuralgia. I would not equate it with TMS. It just happens, particularly if the person does not get a shot of acyclovir within the first 48 hours when symptoms appear.
Has she tried topical Zovirax? It's near they so this might not be safe. There are some drugs...I imagine you have googled post-herpetic neuralgia by now in your research. My opinion is that everything isn't TMS. I would take the conventional route so she can get some relief.
Stress CAN exacerbate any herpes type of pain, so that's the connection. I get outbreaks the very next day when I am severely stressed.
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Ms. Me
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Posted - 05/30/2015 : 15:29:24
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Thank you!
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Originally posted by icelikeaninja
Hi, Ill offer my 2 cents.
One of my coworkers had herpes above his eye lid. He had pain for awhile everytime he blinked or even when he would lay down on his pillow.
He went to a herpes specialist who said it sounded like post herp pain but that its variable from person to person. The doctor prescribed lyrica but also said that the times my friend got pain and the things that exacerbate it didnt make sense.
So I told my friend about Sarno and there is a part where he mentions herpes etc and that it is a dysfunction in the immune system and should be treated as TMS.
Low and behold he applied all of Sarnos theory and his pain was gone within 3 months and he didnt take any of his meds. I see him fairly often and he doesnt appear to have any issues going on with his eye either. I will ask if he takes any suppressive meds but he seems fine and this was over 5 years ago.
Not saying shingles is tms, it isnt but factors lead to you getting it and factors lead to you getting over it.
I am not a doctor but this is just what I observed. People have healed themselves from much worst we see it all the time.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress?
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Ms. Me
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Posted - 05/30/2015 : 15:31:11
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Thank you!
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Originally posted by summabody
This is a great book to read on the mind-body connection between skin disorders and the subconscious. This doc has helped many people heal including those with herpes virus from controlling herpes outbreaks and warts, both of which are caused by a virus but triggered by the psyche. The book has 16 references to shingles.
http://grossbart.com/SkinDeep.pdf
If the link doesn't work it's "Skin Deep" by Dr. Grossbart
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filipe
Portugal
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Posted - 05/30/2015 : 16:46:13
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Dear MS Me
I'm gonna tell you what happenned with me 5 years ago. I did a MRI exam because of my chronic pain. After the MRI, everything was ok. I went to bed 1,5 hour after the exam. And wake up in the midle of the night with my back full with wrinkles, red mark and a buning pain. It took me 2 years to get better from the MRI exam. I felt burning pain all over my body (I later found out this is called neuropathic pain). No Dr showd interest on my case. They told me that MRI is inocuous, despite many people complaint about its side effects.
I read several studies and in one of them I discovered that ELectromagnetic Radiation/Radiofrequecy/ WI-FIs, Cell Phone Towers, cell phones, and so on, causes damage to the skyn nerves. It is called Electromagnetic Radiation. THIS IS REAL, not TMS, unfortunately. Radiation damage your body. Even low non-ionizing radiation, like EMFs.
Now you ask? How did this realated to Shingles. Well, After the MRI I went to some Drs, as I told you, and they all did find that my skyn nerves were damage, and that my skyn was Redish, but they said the cause was Shingles. They all refused to attribut my problem to the MRI. Why? Because its FDA approved, and each MRI costs 400€ to 1000€.
If you want to know more about this Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity and its symptoms please visit:
http://www.science20.com/florilegium/what_are_symptoms_electromagnetic_hypersensitivity
http://www.es-uk.info/information.html
http://trusted.md/blog/tyler24476/2006/01/05/mri_side_effects?page=1#axzz3bMrdyHOh
Thanks,
Filipe
PS: Despite all this I'm a firmly believer in TMS, and Dr Sarno's theories. That is how I final cured my chronic pain, in the first place the one that lead me to do the MRI. I think that most diseases, even auto-imune ones, are TMS, however, our bodys are still subject to the nasty effects of neurotoxyns, chemical products and radiation. Envoirmental diseases do exist... and as we aged it is more difficult to cope with them...
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