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| Matt2013 |
Posted - 05/23/2013 : 15:02:56
I was hoping some one can clarify some thing for me. I need some TMS reinforcement!
I have rsi, tension in upper body, shoulders neck and so on. I played tennis for the first time in 2 years. It didn't hurt my wrists at all. For the next 2 days though my fore arms were sore. Oxygen deprivation is what it felt like.
Is that because my upper body is so tense (from TMS)that the blood flow/ oxygen doesn't get to my wrist properlly for it to replenish? or is it literally my brain putting that ache in my fore arm? regardless of whether there would be tension in my upper body?
I've got trouble accepting the latter on this? Wouldn't the pain come straight away while playing?
thanks!
Matt |
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| Dave |
Posted - 05/28/2013 : 09:00:41
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Originally posted by Matt2013
I know my fore arms wouldn't hurt normally after playing tennis after 2 years in truth. So it's defo an oxygen/blood deprivation thing. I'm just wondering whether due to the body mechanics of having a tense/stuck/tms upper body there's an ache in my forearm i.e a restricted blood/oxygen flow.
These thoughts are firmly in the physical/structural realm. The fact is, it doesn't matter if we understand the exact mechanism of the pain. I believe we cannot fully understand it. Thinking about the physiology of the pain is entirely contradictory to treating the symptoms as TMS.
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Or if that ache in the fore arm is the distraction it's self?
That is highly likely, and even if it is not entirely true, it is the best frame of mind for recovery.
It is perfectly normal for our muscles to feel sore after a workout, especially if those muscles have not been used in the same manner for a long time. I consider this a "good" soreness. I have learned to differentiate between the feeling of sore muscles due to a good workout vs. the soreness that is caused by TMS. But even if you cannot differentiate them, it does not matter -- the process is exactly the same: ignore (accept) the symptoms and think about potential psychological triggers.
If you continue to think about structural causes of the pain, what starts out as normal, healthy soreness due to muscle use can be perpetuated by the unconscious mind as a TMS symptom. The mind is clever and will continue to provide whatever symptom that grabs your attention. The way to thwart that strategy is to ignore the symptoms. |
| gigalos |
Posted - 05/25/2013 : 03:38:03
Hi Matt, it is an often seen pattern in triggerpoint theory (little muscle spasms/knots, which is all TMS). For example TrP's in your shoulder can set fire to certain parts of your arms, which in this theory is because of crossing nerves that set fire to each other. Again, the main cause is TMS as I found out personally.
I advice you not to search for all of this, just try to accept it.
Listen to Dave and Tom, I think they are right.
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| Matt2013 |
Posted - 05/24/2013 : 14:08:32
thanks guys.
I think my minds quite technical and I need to believe in this 100 percent for it to work. So it's good to put my doubts out there!
I know my fore arms wouldn't hurt normally after playing tennis after 2 years in truth. So it's defo an oxygen/blood deprivation thing. I'm just wondering whether due to the body mechanics of having a tense/stuck/tms upper body there's an ache in my forearm i.e a restricted blood/oxygen flow.
Or if that ache in the fore arm is the distraction it's self?
to be honest I'm not sure if it's a question anyone could answer!
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| Dave |
Posted - 05/24/2013 : 09:35:28
Don't overthink this.
You used muscles you haven't used in 2 years. OF COURSE they are going to be sore!
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/23/2013 : 16:01:10
If you haven't played in two years, you may just be feeling what would be normal soreness from not using your muscles for a long time and their being out of tone. But, due to the TMS aspect of it, the pain is being amplified by your subconscious as a distraction from feeling and exhibiting rage over repressed emotional issues trying to surface from your TMS reservoir of rage.
Sorry for the run on sentence but that would be the TMS fundamentalist answer, others may have a different viewpoint and they are welcome to chime in. This is only a guess and a shot in the dark from the little info available.
G'luck and hit 'em where they aint!
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