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leegold
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 Posted - 07/25/2005 : 13:01:00
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i just saw sarno last monday for appt and lecture after reading his books several times. i absolutely see that my severe neck
shoulder pain is TMS (so i am not going to get surgery as recommended), and probably my asthma also- i just have an issue im very conflicted about. i have gone to the chiropractor regulary (too regularly, actually) and sarno said to stop altogether. my issue is: i get 'twisted' and then crack my own neck until i am so locked up that i cant even crack it anymore. at this point i have a headache and literally can feel myself twisted. the dilemma: if this also is tms, what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING to my spine, and if i avoid the chiro, WILL IT STRAIGHTEN ITSELF ON ITS OWN? dr sarno is on vacation and i cant talk to him until aug 15th. my wife says DO NOT GO to the chiro- i desperately want to get straightened out. anyone else have a similar situation they can comment on? thanks so much |
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 07/25/2005 : 13:38:21
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My advice would be to listen to your wife. Do not go to the chiropractor!!! I cannot tell you how much money I have saved by NOT going to the chiropractor. Your body has been programmed to think it "needs" the adjustments to get along and feel better but it doesn't. I know because I was addicted to going for every little ache and pain - every time my neck hurt, or my low back felt tweaked. If Sarno is away on vacation, utilize this time to read and re-read the books. Spend 20 minutes a day journaling and thinking about what is truly bothering you. You can do this. You don't need to make the chiro any richer. Seeing a chiro will only benefit him, not you.
I know someone who was seeing a local chiropractor two or three times per week for a long time. They spend thousands and thousands of dollars. I recommended the books by Dr. Sarno and he hasn't been back since. This could be you. DO THE WORK and READ THE BOOKS!!!
Good luck to you.
Laura
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 07/25/2005 : 14:36:40
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Your thinking is flawed.
There is nothing to "straighten" because there is nothing "twisted." It is all TMS.
TMS is very clever. It knows you are addicted to chiropractic and it will give you precise symptoms to make you think that you "need" an adjustment. I know this all too well -- I went to a chiropractor for 15 years before stopping cold turkey.
"Cracking" your neck does nothing other than release gas from the joints. It is harmless, unless you do it to such an extreme that you actually cause muscle strain. But there is nothing going on with your spine. TMS is doing its best to make you think the problem is physical, and it's winning. Don't let it! |
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Kluvnp
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 09:06:17
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Leegold, OMG. I am the same way. It 'feels' like the chiropractor twists you up or turns bones and then you spend your time and efforts trying to 'turn' yourself back. I felt twisted or put in the wrong place too after seeing them. It actually felt like both of them screwed my head up too tight, if that's possible (with neck adjustments. I think they affect the muscles and it pulls them somehow). My last upper back adjustment felt like it turned three vertabrae (it was a very deep and painful adjustment right behind my lung area/heart area), put them in the wrong place (that's what it felt like. My sports doc said it was possible and likely) and I was in the most severe pain with trouble breathing and heart palpitations and what felt like rib problems for three years. People ask why I didn't go back to have that adjustement 'fixed' and my answer is that I refused to let him touch me again (I didn't want anyone touching me) and I simply suffered with it until I saw a sports injury doc who put them back in place (he corrected the misallignment in my upper back) and I was fine after that and have been healing physically ever since. However, I do still have the feeling of the muscles in my head as being 'twisted', mostly in the back of my head. Oddly, it occurs to me that it's the pain of C1 that makes it feel that way. A constant pain radiating up from C1 and maybe C2in the center of my head and all around. One thing is for sure, I do cause muscle strain in my head and spine trying to relieve the tension caused by previous chiropractic work. It has become severe. I personally think they mess ya up more than they help. I have never been helped after the first initial adjustment, the first one that always feels like a million bucks!!!
There's much more that could be said, but I'll stop for now.
Sorry, Leegold, about your pain with this and your struggle. I am so there with ya and I never knew what it was. I just knew it was the severest amount of tension to the point of snapping and it seemed to begin in the chiropractors office, with someone 'making adjustments' that 'weren't right for me'. This TMS, tho sounds as if it may be possible as well. I'm going to study up on this a bit more. The mind is such a powerful thing and I have concluded as well that knowlege is power and when you don't understand the way something works and we only perceive it by the way it feels, we can end up with a wrong perception that borders on insanity with UNREAL and IMPOSSIBLE (impossible if you're lucky enough to realize your insanity and come to accept the truth) being the only words to describe it.    Does this make sense?? hehe. |
Edited by - Kluvnp on 08/07/2005 09:12:53 |
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Jay
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 17:52:59
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I agree with everyone who posted a response back to you. Stay away from the chiro!! I haven't been to one in over 2 years and I feel great and have been TMS free for 1 1/2 years. I won't even get a massage anymore because I'm afraid it will act as a TMS trigger and start me thinking physical again. Work out your pain psychologically. Chiropractors will never be able to "heal" you. You have to heal yourself and you have the power to do it with Sarno's books and others...and you have "us" on the Forum, too!
Jay |
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