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leegold
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 Posted - 08/06/2005 : 19:58:11
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since my post on day 12 of my tms 'therapy' i have not been doing as well. lots of pain, back on more pain meds, although the worst is not as bad as it once was. some days not so bad, some days pretty bad. i struggle with thoughts like 'am i getting better or were those 2 days a fluke?'
i know sarno says 3-4 weeks of work, schechter says 6-8 weeks, so i encourage myself to keep on keepin-on. i am learning a lot about myself and how i get angry a LOT, even at really stupid it-shouldnt-matter stuff
has anyone else gone back-and-forth before the tms solution finally 'kicked in' and you got significantly better? im just trying to stay encouraged, and anyone who can offer some 'been-there-done-that-and-it'll-be-ok' would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 03:32:53
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You bet I've been there and done that, Leegold. The word roller-coaster comes to mind. It took a lot of hard work, reading, introspection and downright self-centredness to recover.
And, to be honest, the TMS gremlin still rears it's ugly head now and again, it catches me off guard, so to speak - never the full-on pain and misery of two years ago, but occasionally my back still hurts a bit - never for long though. I can think myself out of it now.
I'm in a strange situation at the moment. Two years ago I gave up work as a teacher because of unremmitant severe back pain and anxiety. I got to the point where I wanted to return past-time because I was feeling so well. I took a job in an educational centre - part-time - a couple of hours on Tuesdays and Saturdays. I love the work I do there.
Two months later - the boss has asked me to take on many more students and other things as well. I've said yes and I know I can do the work. The money is good as well. However, the old self-doubt creeps in, I wake in the mornings with butterflies in the stomach. I still have the kind of personality that allows that old gremlin to get out of its box and dance on the lid. This time, though, I know I'll do fine - these things are minor irritations which no longer have the power to cause any havoc in my life.
Stick with it - it's worth the effort.
Best wishes
Anne
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ssjs
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 06:36:24
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i am learning a lot about myself and how i get angry a LOT, even at really stupid it-shouldnt-matter stuff
Here is part of your problem! You cannot control what you are mad at! If try to, you will only be repressing it!
There is nothing that "shouldn't matter!"
On the other hand, I have found that therapy can help you find out why it does matter, and then suddenly, sometimes, it honestly doesn't! And if it still does, at least you know why!
The point is, that you are still repressing it if you try to stop yourself from being mad at something. Be mad, you can't help that , but learn to react differently.
Believe me, whenever I get a twinge, I go through a whole list in my head of the people I hate, and who are driving me crazy, and who I would just like to kick to the curb because they did whatever to me...could be a little inconsequential nothing... Then, the twinge goes away especially if I am still mad and truely know it!
I do not have to confront them...although I do sometimes if it is appropriate, I just have to really know it!
I do not tell myself that I shouldn't be mad...small hurts can really wear you down, I just deal with it.
It is the reaction to the anger, in your head, that causes the pain. Not the actual anger.
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leegold
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 11:01:31
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thanks for the posts, but i dont think i made myself clear. i am just 20 days since i saw sarno- i had 3 very low pain days on day 10-12 and thought here is the healing, but since then the pain is worse again, so im wondering if this is a normal part of the process and will it REALLY get better in the weeks to come or what. in fact last nite it was almost as excrutiating as it ever was. has anyone gone thru THIS?
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Marg
New Zealand
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 11:44:03
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| leegold, You can do it. Every other TMS sufferer has been there. Just keep thinking how strong you really are. I suggest you spend quite I bit of time lying on your bed really letting all those emotions out. Alternatively, go for a walk and let the emotions out while out walking. The tricky thing there is that you end up with tears falling down your face, which is alright as long as no-one sees you. Take a hanky with you. Just keep searching for that inner-strengh, it is there you just have to realize it. |
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yowire
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2005 : 20:19:31
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Hi leegold
Absolutely yes! These setbacks are part of the recovery. Think of this as a struggle with an opponent, which it actually is. If you were in an athletic contest or even a chess match would you expect your opponent to just fold up and go home after you've made a move? Of course not. These setbacks are calculated attacks by your unconscious mind and you must expect them. Don't be rattled by them. Stay resolute. You are at the very beginning. You will succeed. Don't worry about a timetable. This is different for everyone.
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mala
Hong Kong
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Posted - 08/08/2005 : 02:40:17
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Leegold,
Everyone gets better at their own pace but yes for most it is a slow process that will involve more pain than ususal on some days, shifting of pain to other areas on some days, less pain on some, sudden flare ups on other days. There is no fixed pattern but the fact that the pattern slowly changes is a sign that you are heading in the right direction. It took a good year and a half for me so don't set yourself up for disappointment by stting a time frame for recovery.
The next but even more important point is your obsession with the chiro. I'm surprised that even after meeting Sarno, you could even consider doing something like that. It probably means that you have not fully understood the doctor and the recovery programme or else you would not be thinking along those lines.
Whether you get to speak to sarno tomorrow or on the 15th there is no doubt about what he is going to say re the chiro. NO WAY. I think he makes this point so clearly that there can be no doubt. If you are going to do this seriously then I suggest you read his books again and again, watch his videos and reflect on what he has said to you both in his private consultation with you and in his lectures. Also use this forum as part of your recovery program as you will get lots of good advice from people who have had experiences similar to yours.
Good Luck & Good Health
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 08/08/2005 : 08:53:06
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Originally posted by leegold
since my post on day 12...
Stop tracking your progress. It is counterproductive.
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i know sarno says 3-4 weeks of work, schechter says 6-8 weeks
Both are irrelevant. I wish Dr. Sarno would have said "variable" and left it at that. No doubt he is quoting what he feels are the majority of cases. If it is the majority, I bet it is 50.01%. Many people need much longer to get significant relief.
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has anyone else gone back-and-forth before the tms solution finally 'kicked in' and you got significantly better?
I would say the majority of people fall into this category.
If you get caught up with counting days and tracking the "where" and "how bad" of your symptoms, then you are playing right into TMS hands. Instead of being distracted by the symptoms, you are now distracted by whether or not you are "getting better."
It's important to take a long-term view and accept that treating TMS is a life-long change in thinking and behavior and that it can take months and maybe years to get full relief. After 12 days you simply cannot expect miracles. This is not magic ... it takes focus and hard work, and in many cases, a lot of time. |
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leegold
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2005 : 19:36:45
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| Thanks for all your encouraging words |
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2 steps forward 1 step back?
