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2scoops
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 Posted - 10/01/2004 : 11:44:17
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| A guy I work with's wife has probably about 20 ulcers in her stomach and colon. She has had migraines for a long time, she also had real bad IBS. The doctors blame the lining on her stomach has deteriorated due to the the fact that she takes a lot of aspirin for her headaches. She does fit the TMS mold in that she was physically and emotionally abused. I made the reccommendation of reading Mindbody prescription and going to psychotherpay. Anyone here ever been through this situation if so do you have any advice? |
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menvert
Australia
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 18:32:34
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Sarno does touch on the subject of stomach ulcers .
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I think he believes that it is a TMS equivalent, but with a significant difference, stomach ulcers CAN cause permanent damage so in MBP He seemed reluctant to completely state it was TMS because, unlike most other TMS injuries, stomach ulcers are very dangerous and it would be irresponsible to stop anti-reflux and other similar treatments. So yes , it is most likely TMS But the symptoms unfortunately cannot be just ignored as you would do with other TMS.
The trouble with this sort of TMS equivalent is it would be a hard one to defeat, because it's hard to determine whether forgoing the treatment is going to be too dangerous or not.
I would still have her read some Sarno books and if she's receptive to her that could only be of benefit. |
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Suzanne
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2004 : 21:00:54
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I never had an actual ulcer, but I had a serious stomach irritation that put me in the emergency room. After the visit to the ER, I was sent to a gastroenterologist and put on medication, because I was headed for ulcers. I also had IBS for about 7 years at the time.
When my current TMS symptoms began, I didn't notice at first, but realized about a month later that my IBS and stomach problems were gone.
I didn't know I had TMS at the time, but I thought it was odd that I suddenly no longer had my gastrointestinal problems of 7 years (or more) and now had severe pain in my pelvic area and tailbone/low back.
When I saw Dr. Sarno 2 year after this occured, he said that my former TMS was most likely the stomach and intestinal problems, and the location switched because I had become unphased by it.
It no longer bothered me or hurt me in the way it was obviously meant to, but was just an annoyance and I laughed it off for months after going off the medication and deciding to just live with the IBS and other problems (acid reflux). My stomach did still act up, but never so bad that I ended up back in the ER. I basically ignored the symptoms so much after so long that they were useless as any distraction. They didn't serve their purpose. TMS must've decided it was time to pack up and move. Since then, I've never had the severe gastrointestinal problems, but deal with the TMS in it's current 'housing' location.
For a few weeks about 4 months ago, I did have some stomach problems, after a doctor said to me "boy, I bet you'd take the stomach and IBS problems any day over THIS problem you now have!" and I quickly said "OH YES!" Well my brain sure listened and sure enough, I had the old symptoms back the next morning, and less pain where I'd had it since it all switched years back. I knew what was going on, discussed it with my doctors, and sure enough, it switched back to it's current place again.
I never had anything as severe as your friends' sounds, so damage could be done, as mine was on it's way, and my stomach is still very sensitive to certain foods and fats. I can't touch anything fried or slathered in oil. But the daily dealings with gastrointestinal problems are no longer anything I have to take medication for or think about, whereas years ago, I would have to worry about where to eat, if I could leave the house, and what would happen while out to dinner. It just went away, while I wasn't on medication, and "coincidentally" at the very same time my TMS began in my pelvic floor and tailbone area. |
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2scoops
USA
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Posted - 10/02/2004 : 15:16:19
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| Well she is 52 and the doctors told her that if her ulcers don't heal up that she could die within in 10 years from it. So I guess I wonder if it's possible that Sarno's theory could help her heal the ulcers. |
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menvert
Australia
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Posted - 10/03/2004 : 00:30:07
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yes i think it is likely to be TMS related .
after all, stomach ulcers is one of the injury that is most commonly related to stress/psychology.... Understanding TMS may heal it completely...
ideally, if she could see a TMS doctor would be the best solution..
failing that, probably treat it as a TMS injury . but being very mindful if and when she actually stops taking medication...
You never know she may get really good results and stop geting mygrains and then start working on the ulcers...
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Suzanne
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2004 : 18:49:22
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| Like menvert said, I'd treat it as a TMS condition and see what happens. I'd not stop the medications, but start the TMS program soon as possible. So many gastrointestinal conditions are caused by stress, so applying the methods to rid TMS might be just what she needs. |
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 10/03/2004 : 20:55:37
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Headaches, ulcers...sounds like TMS and it sounds like it's worth a try. I have suffered from both. As a child, I consumed a lot of Aspirin because I had a constant headache. Not surprising though due to the dysfunctional home I grew up in. At age 22, I was hospitalized for ulcerations going down my esophagus into my stomach with stomach ulcers as well. I spent two weeks in the hospital and lost a lot of weight. At age 38, I had that same familiar burning in my stomach and the doctors wanted to do an upper endoscopy. I was scared to go through it again, since my first experience with that at age 22 was bad, but when I finally couldn't take anymore I agreed to it. The experience wasn't bad at all and as I was coming out of my drug induced delerium the doctor informed me I had no ulcer, "Just gastritis." My stomach stopped hurting that day, after being told there was no ulcer. I hope they can help your friend's wife -- I know how unpleasant that can be. But just based on the headaches and ulcers, it sure sounds like a likely TMS case. Good luck!
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Can anyone relate?
