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Singer_Artist
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 Posted - 05/09/2007 : 07:57:33
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Hey Art,
I so feel your pain, especially about feeling fragility for oneself and others we love...I keep hearing of people dying out of nowhere, even someone 39, a friend of my b/f's..It's so upsetting and scary even w/ my strong belief in God..I can only imagine it must be worse without a belief in a Supreme Being or Heaven..The Hyponchondriacal tendencies i have are with me regularly too and i hate it! I had a pain in my head last night and right away I think (i won't even say it!) the worst!! I wish I could change this..there must be a way besides expensive psycho-therapy! In any case, I do understand and I wouldn't get too worried about being extra careful...I also have fear when driving, especialy since i have had accidents that were not my fault and truly did injury me very badly..Going in an ambulance once was terrifying..
Hugs!
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mikescott_98
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 06:46:14
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| This might be a solution to people that have to check doors many times before leaving a house. If you are finding it hard to be sure, it might be worth installing a home monitoring system. I do not know much about them, but there might be some that you can dial your home via a cell phone to check and see everything is OK. |
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sonora sky
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 09:48:59
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Originally posted by art
I have a hard time thinking of this as TMS. It feels more basic than that, an expression of the fear all human beings have, consciously or not, of pain and death.
I think most people have these thoughts/flashes, the difference is whether a person is able to simply observe the thoughts objectively and let them pass, or weather he/she begins to believe/hold/retain the thoughts and live them (experience the anxiety and stress) as if they were true. The clinging to these thoughts on a mental level can reek havoc in the body. The neural receptors in the brain don't distinguish between encoutnering a real/actual threat and visualizing/thinking about/imagining the threat. The body reacts in the same way. (I just read this somewhere, but I can't locate the source at the moment...) It's like you're putting yourself into a suspended state of flight-or-fight.
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Big Rob
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 14:59:50
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I am an OCD sufferer. I also cured my back pain from the mind body prescription book.
However.........
Has anyone ever heard of cognitive behavioural therapy?
That provides a better explanation. i.e. the emotional attachment to unevidenced beliefs makes us irrational (OCD, depression, back pain, etc. etc.)
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 05/11/2007 : 19:16:15
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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is a psychotherapy based on modifying everyday thoughts and behaviors, but it is not a efficacious treatment modality for TMS sufferers.
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Big Rob
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 09:49:08
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Originally posted by shawnsmith
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is a psychotherapy based on modifying everyday thoughts and behaviors, but it is not a efficacious treatment modality for TMS sufferers.
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How is that?
The behavioral side of CBT is exactly the same as what Dr Sarno describes in his books.
The cognitive side essentially describes why there is a problem in the first place.
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sonora sky
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 10:27:28
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Hi BR,
The way i understand it, C-B therapists try to help you solve your problems (OCD, for example) by offering techniques that focus on curbing the behavior itself. For example, when one gets the impulse to check the locks, the CBT might have you ask yourself why you feel the need to check the locks again and again. One might reply, "I'm afraid someone will break into my house." The CBT might then advise you to ask yourself whether or not this is a rational thought. The patient replies, "no, I guess not. There isn't a high percentage (statistically) that my house would be broken into." That process in itself is supposed to relieve the fear and compulsive action, and allow the person to move on with their life.
Sarno would disagree with the effectiveness of this method, because it only looks for superficial solutions to a problem that runs deeper, in our subconsious mind. He favors psychodynamically-oriented therapists who seek out the root causes of your ailment (whether it be OCD, depression, or back pain). Such therapists are trained to help patients explore buried emotions in their past (such as repressed rage from childhood) that may be causing our problems in the present.
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 10:41:10
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Ditto to what sonora sky wrote. CBT indeed offers superficial solutions to a problem that runs deeper, in our subconsious mind.
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