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richedie

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Posted - 07/16/2008 :  13:28:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had ulnar entrapment surgery last October and just this past week i was lifting weights, when I had a sudden pain. I could always feel the ulnar nerve after surgery, then while working out I started having this pain in my elbow and I can see the nerve moved down toward the ulna and looks to be sitting on the ulna at times! Now, when i bend the elbow, I can see the nerve popping over the elna and it hurts! The surgeon said scar tissue can push the nerve down and they could always do another decompression. In the mean time he said to see a PT or myofascial expert. Why, what will that do? For a nerve?

He also said maybe I am just more sensitive to it now or started noticing it now. Either way, I can't keep going with my arm feeling this way, Bending it hurts!

Thanks!

westcoastram

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Posted - 07/16/2008 :  21:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
richedie,

I can tell you that I had ulna nerve entrapment before I discovered TMS. The nerve used to pop out too. I rested it a ton and the nerve stopped popping out (don't really know the what and how about that) but I can tell you that the pain at the site continued until I discovered TMS and it went away after discovering it.

I suspect it was TMS although it's hard to think of a nerve moving actually being psychosomatic.

WCR
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David Russ

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2008 :  22:19:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Richedie,

This does not sound like TMS to me. It sounds like an ulnar nerve that was entrapped, then released and is now unstable. The surgery can cause the nerve to lose its normal soft tissue support. If the nerve is actually subluxating across the ulna, it will actually hurt.

Given the history, though, it is possible that you are very sensitive to the condition and that your fear of what it might mean is magnifying the pain.

Before you decide it's TMS, see if there might be some actual physical thing wrong. It's a necessary part of the TMS diagnosis--rule out actual pathology.
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mk6283

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2008 :  23:29:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree. If you are experiencing the pain consistently on bending, then I'd be hard pressed to call that a conditioned TMS response. No harm in getting it checked out.

TMS pain attributed to "tendonitis" (etc.) can definitely cause elbow pain. In such a setting, a traditional work-up may reveal "ulnar nerve entrapment" (etc.) to which the pain would probably be attributed, yet the entrapment may just be a red herring analogous to a herniated disc. However, the history and presentation you are describing warrants a little more investigation first before such a conclusion can be reached.

Ulnar nerve entrapment is probably analogous to carpal tunnel syndrome. CTS is usually due to TMS, but not always. Likewise, TMS may be blamed on UNE, but true cases of ulnar nerve entrapment still can occur. Good luck!

Best,
MK

Edited by - mk6283 on 07/17/2008 00:32:01
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richedie

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Posted - 12/11/2008 :  09:59:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey all, can you have a lot of inflammation and discoloration from TMS, including body temperature fluctuations? My hands and feet have been swelling like baloons - I couldn't get my ring off the other day. My hands were so mottled and grey it set the doctor a back! Didn't know what to think. Body temp has been hitting around 95-96.
My normal is about 98.4
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