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DiskPain
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 Posted - 12/28/2004 : 06:26:07
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| I have been having pain this whole month, but especially recently. I am definitely programmed. I get up and have pretty much no pain. After the shower, i gradually start to get pain when I bend for things. I first notice the real irriation when I put on my socks on the side of the bed. Whether it is a great day or a stressful one, this programmed behavior begins each day. My pain is weird. It is a dull pain that sits deep in the spine. When I flex my back, it feels like a broken bone or sprain. Sometimes I get sciatica too. Once I get to work, it sometimes gets a little better, but then gets bad again. I actually have pain at different times each day, but it mostly gradually gets worse all day. I just wish I could fully accept that this injury feeling is only TMS and not partly a physical thing. Some pains are easier to believe than others. Somehow, I have to build my confidence that this thing will leave for good. I can't do that yet. I keep thinking about all of the people who go to doctors and physical therapy. Why does this exist if herniated discs don't cause pain? If Dr. Sarno cures almost everyone, then why has this concept not caught on? |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 12/28/2004 : 07:37:57
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| Physical therapy and orthopedic surgery are at this time very mainstream and a major source of income for alot of professional people. Many have never heard of Sarno and many who have find his theory to simplistic to try. Pault sent me the 20-20 tape of John Stossel and Dr. Sarno. In it, Stossel tells of his immediate cure after 15 years but his brother,who has suffered identical symptoms,refuses to try, even though he has seen his brother's cure. Instead,we see him hanging from some contraption to stretch his neck that he says is very "mainstream". I think that this is ,in a nutshell,the reason that people refuse to accept him. Stossel's brother knows that he is credible but refuses to give in to what,according to the brother,would cause him immense anger if he knew he was causing his own pain. I think some think it's too simplistic and others think their mind would show weakness if it proved to be the cause of their misery. Be glad you found Sarno. The doubting is normal but you are going to have to get past it to feel better. |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 12/28/2004 : 07:48:27
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If you read your messages on this forum in chronological order, you will see that you are making progress. For example you are now referring to your morning pain as "programmed behavior." You are definitely on the right track.
It is crucial to understand that the unconscious mind is stubborn. You cannot speak to it. You cannot make it understand. The only way is via a tiny funnel from your consciousness. You must constantly feed the TMS concepts into that tiny funnel so that they will be absorbed by your unconscious. The process takes months. Confidence in the dignosis will increase as your symptoms improve.
As for your final questions, Dr. Sarno explains it in detail in his books. I suggest you continue to read them often.
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Logan
USA
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Posted - 12/28/2004 : 14:26:35
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You might just as well ask why, if people know that smoking causes cancer, people continue to smoke. You might ask too, how tobacco is still legal in this country when study after study has shown it to be extremely physically addictive and more harmful than marijuana. Another good question you might ask is, why are pharmaceutical companies marketing drugs like Vioxx and Celebrex when they know they can cause heart damage (and do little good) for the people that take them?
The answer = $$$
People will always rationalize whatevere they need to in order to make money and in most cases they do it with the best of intentions. My chiropractor was really nice and drove a really nice BMW but after two years of seeing him, I felt worse than ever. That's why for awhile, I too took useless drugs (including Celebrex) and considered dangerous surgery.
I wanted an "easy" alternative, a "quick fix," for the pain. Luckily, I couldn't afford the Celebrex when my HMO dropped it from their list. And I got even luckier when they wouldn't cover a surgical procedure. I'm so glad I didn't go under the knife and got desperate enough to open my mind to alternatives. Thank god for tightass HMOs and Dr. Sarno!
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tennis tom
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Posted - 12/29/2004 : 11:03:10
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Quote from DP:
"I keep thinking about all of the people who go to doctors and physical therapy. Why does this exist if herniated discs don't cause pain? If Dr. Sarno cures almost everyone, then why has this concept not caught on?"
Most people are lemmings. They do whatever they see the person in front of them doing. For proof positive of this observe peoples' driving habits on the freeway - 'nough said.
Sarno does not state that he cures everyone. He selects the patients that he feels are amenable to his form of therapy. The rest he sends on their way to save them their time and money. He has learned through 25 years of thoughtful practice, which patients are capable of accepting TMS theory, and which are not. I believe that he states that of the patients he qualifies and accepts into his program, 90% are helped. That IMHO is being professioinal.
As to why Sarno's theory doesn't catch on, can you imagine the financial havoc that would be wreaked upon the medical/industrial complex? Doctors would have to return to med school and become psychiatrists. Couch manufacturers would profit though. There's just no money in TMS. Buy a book for $20 versus imaging machines for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Any business involved with "health" would be devestated. Mainly though, people just don't like having to think.
DP, all of your questions and concerns are answered in Dr. Sarno's books. The biggest part of "doing the TMS work" is fully understanding the Good Doctor's theory. I suggest you re-read Sarno's books because from your questions I don't think you have performed this most important part of the work. I have read all three of his books twice each, slowly word for word, and readily admit I am sorely due for a re-read. It's probably why people read holy books like the Bible and then start all over. As they grow, evolve and times change, they have new insights and discover truths they missed or glossed over previously. When you can quote him verbatim and consider yourself a Sarno devotee, you will reap the greatest rewards of Sarno's TMS theory. Good luck! |
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