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penguins
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 Posted - 03/02/2011 : 07:43:52
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Hi There,
I was a member here a few years back. Suffered from bad neck/upper back pain and plantar fasciitis. I worked hard and eliminated the back/neck pain completely and when I left here, I was having a bit of foot pain, but nothing serious (now I laugh when my feet hurt). The reason I took a break was that I felt I needed to move on from constantly obsessing about myself. This forum was INSTRUMENTAL in helping me, but I felt it was time to move forward.
So, I'm back now and very confused. Long story short, my "eating disorder" has gotten completely out of control with bingeing. I used to be an insane exerciser. Stopped because of the back/neck stuff, but started up again to combat TMS. I lost a ton of weight and got to a point where I really was too thin. Since then, things have gotten out of control. I've gained back all the weight I lost plus some. I'm heavier now than I was 5 years ago. I binge practically every day but can't work out as hard as I used to be able to.
Here's my issue. Based on all the research I've done and a visit to a chiro/naturopath-type person, I have Candida. I started on all these anti-fungal supplements (this is recent) and gave up all grains back in September (bingeing only got worse). If I take those online Candida tests, I supposedly have a severe case of it. Years of chronic yeast infections, bingeing behavior, tinea versa color (skin infection). I've got it all.
Well, to be honest, this Candida diet is so hard for me to follow. All the joy in things is gone. All I'm doing is spending any free moment I have reseraching which supplement I should try now, what foods can I maybe sneak back in to my ife. It is PURE MISERY. My husband has noticed that I am not doing well emotionally. He said he feels rejected. It's because I'm so damn self-involved in my issues and can't get out of them.
Don't ask me why it has taken me this long to think that perhaps all of this yeast stuff could be TMS. I believe in TMS 100% as I am proof positive that it is indeed a real thing. Maybe I so badly wanted to "cure" my binges with an easy fix like a diet (which is turning out to be a nightmare and only adding more weight to me because I can't stick with it).
Can someone offer me some thoughts and advice? I did just throw caution to the wind a little bit ago and decided to try an anti-anti candida breakfast. I ate all the wrong things: potato bread, Skippy peanut butter and Nutella. It was decadent, heavenly and OH. MY. GOD. did it feel good going down. I'm not saying I am going to give up all the healthy eating I've been doing, but I know that to "cure" myself of the back/neck stuff I had to do the exact opposite of what I thought I should do. I worked out and worked out hard. I said, "Screw you!" to the pain and just moved on. I chanted the TMS poem to myself probably a hundred times a day. I refused to allow the pain to consume me anymore.
Is it possible that I can do that with this supposed yeast stuff? Could it be that I am really capapble of creating yeast issues that maybe will go away if I work hard enough on the emotional piece? I have tons of new anger that I have not explored.
I did not set out to write a whole book here. Sorry about that. This just all came out so fast and I figure I might as well leave it, as it may help some to understand where I'm coming from.
I appreciate any input you may have.
Thanks so much!
--Jennifer |
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 12:49:28
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Oh, man.
I think you have very well answered your own question about Candida being TMS.
I've had tinea versa color since my teens of working landscaping and sweating like a pig. Just use some selsun shampoo on it. That's what I do after I got sick of paying and renewing an expensive prescription lotion.
Also, because I'm OCD positive, I recognize it in you, too. You have the "cure".
Look at the "symptoms" of Candida:
* abdominal gas and bloating
* headaches
* migraines
* excessive fatigue
* cravings for alcohol
* anxiety
* vaginitis
* rectal itching
* cravings for sweets
* inability to think clearly or concentrate
* hyperactivity
* mood swings
* diarrhea
* constipation
* hyperactivity
* itching
* acne
* eczema
* depression
* sinus inflammation
* pre-menstrual syndrome
* dizziness
* poor memory
* persistent cough
* earaches
* low sex drive
* muscle weakness
* irritability
* learning difficulties
* sensitivity to fragrances and/or other chemicals
* cognitive impairment
* thrush
* athlete's foot
* sore throat
* indigestion
* acid reflux
* chronic pain
Plus:
* digestive
* nervous
* cardiovascular
* respiratory
* reproductive
* urinary
* endocrine
* lymphatic
* musculoskeletal
And....
Candida symptoms can vary from one person to another and often move back and forth between systems within the same individual. One day you may experience symptoms in the musculoskeletal system and the next day it could be the digestive system ,etc.
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jaya
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 13:25:13
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dont fall for the candida placebo, ive been there, im ocd also-your ocd will attach itself to candida-the symptoms of candida are very,very similiar to tms--its very easy to fall for-if you had candida youd be in the hospital-sorry to be so blunt-dont fall for it its b.s.!
also stop googling candida youll convince yourself you have it!
its tms
you have the cure! |
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penguins
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 14:27:44
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Oh how I was hoping to get responses like this! Thanks guys! I want this to be TMS because I know I can beat it if it is. I definitely have OCD tendencies (as you both could tell) and I am driving myself insane right now. I deleted the Candida sites I had bookmarked. I deleted the site about primal eating (no grains among other things allowed) that I was obsessed with reading. I put all the supplements away except for my multi, magnesium, and vitamin C. My plan is to try a normal eating day tomorrow. A grain-free diet may be superior to others, but I know myself. I am not able to do it right now. I tried since September and have put on about 15lb since. I've been bingeing on coconut butter, almond butter, almond bread, almonds, peanut butter and the like. I've been dying for just some plain old bread. The Candida diet was so restrictive and I had to give up sweet potatoes and fruit recently. I felt like I was in prison. Thus the binges on the foods I mentioned. The primal diet was what I had originally started with back in September. Similar to Candida but not as restrictive--but certainly hard for me to stick to.
I'm getting my Sarno books back out, am going to print out the poem and other things I used to read on a daily basis, and I will commit to journaling (never was successful with that one). Thank you for your candid (no pun intended  ) responses. Honestly, they were EXACTLY what I was hoping to hear.
THANK YOU!!
--Jennifer :) |
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 16:21:38
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Eating disorders are often the result of some underlying unconscious process. Food can be an addiction just like any other drug, alcohol, gambling, sex, etc. Addictions are, in my opinion, essentially TMS equivalents. Your body doesn't provide the symptom to distract you from the underlying emotional/spiritual issues so you resort to any/many of the aforementioned addictions to distract yourself. I highly recommend reading and applying Michael Brown's The Presence Process because a "cure" is only possible in medicine when you attack the cause and the cause of most eating disorders is unconscious repression and a lack of mindfulness.
Having said that, I always recommend a whole-foods, low-fat, plant-based diet for safe and effective weight loss AND optimum health. Such a diet has withstood the test of time and research and is the overwhelming evidence-based recommendation in my opinion. Any of the books by pioneers like Caldwell Esselstyn, Dean Ornish, John McDougall, and/or Joel Fuhrman can provide you with an excellent nutritional foundation. Good luck.
Best,
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 20:00:15
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For most, it's a matter of physics: too many calories (energy) in and not enough calories expended,equals lard.
Have you ever read the Claire Weekes book, "Hope and Help for Your Nerves"? Much of this is an anxiety problem. Her book and her CD, recommended on here, was the best book I ever read on controlling anxiety. Like Sarno, she has "the cure".
Good luck. Enjoy your meals and listen to your body.
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jaya
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2011 : 04:52:12
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| im grain free, i have been for years..-i live by the website www.marksdailyapple.com - this is just my own belief though--its the only diet that ive been able to bring my weight down from 215lbs. to 166lbs.! i also lift weights now with pretty impressive results.. but the candida thing is nonsense! |
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2011 : 22:02:13
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I can only tell you that the times I had yeast infections were preceded by eating a lot of starch the week before. I could always trace it...last time I ate a whole Italian bread and tons of cake. A few days later, was itching so badly and of course, the discharge smelled like yeast and looked like cottage cheese. Hate to be so graphic but as a woman, you know what it looks like. A few days of Monistat cured it.
In those cases, it had nothing to do with TMS. I would say though that had I kept eating like that, I may have chronic yeast. So maybe it really is time to change your diet. The body can't function well on binging, as you know. I know you plan to do this...but if it were anyone else, I would tell them they can't expect yeast to go away unless they cut the sugars and starches. I worked in gyn for 25 years and this is what the doctors advised. In other words, if you keep eating wrong, you can't blame it on TMS...honestly, not everything is TMS. When my cholesterol went sky high, it was not TMS, it was eating pizza, caker and burgers every day. I knocked it off and got it down to a great level.
As far as the binging, I find that the best program to really change our behavior is Weight Watchers. It isn't about food like it used to be...it's so much more psychological stuff now and the new program is so much more healthy than the one from prior years. Maybe you don't need a Candida diet. If you just go on a really good diet of a lot of fruit, vegetables, fish and the foods encouraged by the WW program, it can really turn your life around. It did for me. I do have pretty severe TMS, that's why I'm here but at least my body chemistry is good, all my tests, values are perfect now. |
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penguins
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Posted - 03/04/2011 : 06:20:02
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MK: I'll look into the book you suggested. I'm up for anything, so thanks for the recommendation.
Back2It: You know, I read Claire Weekes' book years ago. It definitely resonated with me, but putting it into practice was so difficult. I'll have to dig it out and try again.
Jaya: That's the site I go to as well. I have a thread going at the moment about all this. People are not going to agree with me, but for now I am going to try just being gluten-free versus completely grain-free which clearly has not been working. I've been trying since September. Maybe someday I will be ready to give it all up, but I just don't have it in me now. I wish I could be stronger or whatever it is I'd need to follow a strict diet. Alas, I can't. I've got to change something though because the weight gain is getting out of control. I will not go back to the days when I was really heavy. So I will try to eat as whole-foods as possible and my bread will be of the non-gluten kind, preferrably baked myself.
Susan828: Funny you should mention WW. That's how I initially lost a bunch of weight after my son was born. I had started taking Wellbutrin and was doing WW. It was a wonderful combination. Long story short, the Wellbutrin stopped working years later and the bingeing came back worse than ever. I long to go back to those days when food was on the back burner in my mind. I recently went off the Wellbutrin, but figured out that perhaps the reason it stopped working was that at some point along the line the doc switched me to generic. Both my therapist and regular doctor believe there is a difference in brand name and generic for some people. Right now I'm waiting for my insurance company to approve the brand name. I think I need to go back on it again because I'm slowing sinking. Again, another thing people will probably disagree with, but I can't live for other people. I will check out the new version of WW and maybe I'll try plugging my food into the calculator for a bit. Thanks for the idea! |
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2011 : 11:37:40
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Hi Jen yes great place to visit …Btw I’m just visiting myself. And yes you are correct very instrumental for healing. And good idea to move forward too. Some times we can get stuck… Well said. …
Anyhow so while I’m visiting, here is my .04 cents worth. Candida is Candida period! If u want to call it a TMS equivalent you can BJMHO I think some are mistaken on that one.
You can test for it if ya don’t believe it exists. . Yea some testing the medical community does actually may be helpful. Now what they say about how they go about fixing problems is another story.
I would not dismiss a test especially if someone does it in the field of nutrition. Find someone you trust is that you can work with . Good at what they do and I think you will get a bit further with your condition.
If ya want to do an EZ yeast check. ( Not 100% ) but often gives ya a clue. How bout this Early in the morning you can simply spit in cup of water and see the way the saliva reacts to see if you have yeast. All ya need is a good spit …and a clear glass of water…. If it floats on top prob not much yeast. If as it sinks it has a bunch of strands, floating and branches etc. most likely you have yeast issues. And that’s all without a real test.
So my short advice if you have ongoing yeast issues for more than 3 days there is an underlying issue. I would treat as yeast and / or at least stop feeding it. And until you get to the underlying issue , you will have yeast surface in one way or another digestive tract, stool skin, dry cough etc….. Again JMHO this is most likely from a result of something else going on in the body.
Now on the emotional side it sounds like you still have some work to do in that dept. With the obsessions and the compulsives. Diets eating only this that etc…… IMO once you find the core issues and the reasons for the underlying emotional problems the rest will most likely fall into place, I would not be so OCD about diets right now. But would NOT feed the yeast beast either. However if you have out of control yeas issues than I wound pay some attention there . Perhaps probiotics, digestive enzymes, Candex and other anti yeast protocols. Again if OUT of control yeast is present and continues to cycle and doesnt get better then work on that. IMO Cut feeding yeast while supporting GI tract.
That’s all I can offer without going into full detail; its sounds to me like two possibilities and multiple things going on from what you have described
Hope that helps some
Ohh one thing id like to add (just read the last replies)
Eating well is Essential to good health . Fruits and veggies yupper lay off the process foods drink plenty of water. No high frucose junk….. Are all good things regarding weight gain and general health and nutrition
IMO you cannot go wrong treating your body right 
My Best
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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jaya
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2011 : 11:56:22
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| sorry to beat a dead horse.... yeast.. yet another tms distraction..if you had never seen it on the internet youd have never entertained the thought of candida- but i bet you think about it all the time! googling will kill you slowly. stop googling we are guilty of it- its just as addicting as reading this forum. |
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mellykunk
USA
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 17:47:24
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Originally posted by penguins
Hi There,
I was a member here a few years back. Suffered from bad neck/upper back pain and plantar fasciitis. I worked hard and eliminated the back/neck pain completely and when I left here, I was having a bit of foot pain, but nothing serious (now I laugh when my feet hurt). The reason I took a break was that I felt I needed to move on from constantly obsessing about myself. This forum was INSTRUMENTAL in helping me, but I felt it was time to move forward.
So, I'm back now and very confused. Long story short, my "eating disorder" has gotten completely out of control with bingeing. I used to be an insane exerciser. Stopped because of the back/neck stuff, but started up again to combat TMS. I lost a ton of weight and got to a point where I really was too thin. Since then, things have gotten out of control. I've gained back all the weight I lost plus some. I'm heavier now than I was 5 years ago. I binge practically every day but can't work out as hard as I used to be able to.
Here's my issue. Based on all the research I've done and a visit to a chiro/naturopath-type person, I have Candida. I started on all these anti-fungal supplements (this is recent) and gave up all grains back in September (bingeing only got worse). If I take those online Candida tests, I supposedly have a severe case of it. Years of chronic yeast infections, bingeing behavior, tinea versa color (skin infection). I've got it all.
Well, to be honest, this Candida diet is so hard for me to follow. All the joy in things is gone. All I'm doing is spending any free moment I have reseraching which supplement I should try now, what foods can I maybe sneak back in to my ife. It is PURE MISERY. My husband has noticed that I am not doing well emotionally. He said he feels rejected. It's because I'm so damn self-involved in my issues and can't get out of them.
Don't ask me why it has taken me this long to think that perhaps all of this yeast stuff could be TMS. I believe in TMS 100% as I am proof positive that it is indeed a real thing. Maybe I so badly wanted to "cure" my binges with an easy fix like a diet (which is turning out to be a nightmare and only adding more weight to me because I can't stick with it).
Can someone offer me some thoughts and advice? I did just throw caution to the wind a little bit ago and decided to try an anti-anti candida breakfast. I ate all the wrong things: potato bread, Skippy peanut butter and Nutella. It was decadent, heavenly and OH. MY. GOD. did it feel good going down. I'm not saying I am going to give up all the healthy eating I've been doing, but I know that to "cure" myself of the back/neck stuff I had to do the exact opposite of what I thought I should do. I worked out and worked out hard. I said, "Screw you!" to the pain and just moved on. I chanted the TMS poem to myself probably a hundred times a day. I refused to allow the pain to consume me anymore.
Is it possible that I can do that with this supposed yeast stuff? Could it be that I am really capapble of creating yeast issues that maybe will go away if I work hard enough on the emotional piece? I have tons of new anger that I have not explored.
I did not set out to write a whole book here. Sorry about that. This just all came out so fast and I figure I might as well leave it, as it may help some to understand where I'm coming from.
I appreciate any input you may have.
Thanks so much!
--Jennifer
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