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 Posted - 07/26/2005 : 09:55:18
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"The Journey" by Barndon Hays
Here is chapter 1.
http://www.thejourney.com/resources/Journey_Book_Chapter_One.pdf
Reading Dr. Sarno's physcology chapter is like getting your toes wet while reading this book is like jumping into the ocean. The book it is brilliant. I don't think she has even heard of TMS but I know she would agree with the concept. Both Candice Pert and Deepak Chopra - whom Dr. Sarno recommends and highly praises - praise the work of this author. Read it and find out for youself. Beware, it is very emotionally charged and you are going to be asked to dig really deep inside you- deeper than you have ever been asked to dig before. |
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Suz
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Posted - 07/26/2005 : 10:34:56
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Posted - 07/26/2005 : 15:42:26
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| Yes, I am reading it now. I consider it a must read |
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Allan
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:07:20
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Peter.
Could you give us the full title?
Amazon lists more that one by her.
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 11:20:16
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Thanks for the tip. I'm going to Barnes and Noble right now to get it for our trip tomorrow.
Laura
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Suz
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 14:50:04
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| I looked at it and the first chapter looked a little spooky. It seemed as if she was saying that we have full control over everything inside of us - sort of sounded to me like playing God. Just my initial reaction. I am very cautious around that kind of self-giving power as it really clashes with my faith. I have only read the first chapter, so I may be misinterpreting the nature of the book. |
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 17:04:45
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It is better read it first as it is not what you think, especially when you read her personal story of curing herself of a basketball sized tumor in just 6 weeks. It is better to comment on it after reading it. Remember, just becuase a book does not say TMS on it does not mean that it cannot be helpful to those with TMS. The book certainly does the discuss the relationship between buried emotions and physical symptoms. She may explain it differently that Dr. Sarno - preferring Dr. Chopra's model instead - but I think esentially they are saying the same thing in a different way. Nothing works without giving it an honest try,and I do hope that you find it enriching and helpful.
Suz, if you are a practising Christian (sorry for the assumptions if I am wrong) I don't think there would be too much in there that would be offensive, although she may use terminologies which may clash with your convictions, but she is using the language she understands. Basically, she is telling us we have this amazing ability to heal ourselves, and surely this a an amazing gift from the creator. |
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CherylH
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 19:20:27
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After a recommendation from this forum, I got the the movie 'What the Bleep Do We Know' and found that very interesting. Candice Pert is one of the Drs in that movie, and I'm hoping to read her most recent book after getting through with 'The Messages of Water.' Dr. Pert sounds really fascinating...
Another interesting mindbody connection, I thought - I listened to most of Christopher Reeve's audio book on a trip today, and there were at least 2 chapters that were devoted to the concept of what he called the mindbody connection. Again, never saying TMS or really getting close to the concepts Dr. Sarno discusses, but still another plug for the mindbody issues we deal with..
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Jim1999
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 20:45:16
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Originally posted by Suz
I looked at it and the first chapter looked a little spooky. It seemed as if she was saying that we have full control over everything inside of us - sort of sounded to me like playing God.
I also had a very negative reaction to that same material. Still, that doesn't mean the whole book is bad. It may be a mix of some material that's very good and some that's toward the other extreme. I'll probably skim through the book in a bookstore.
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2005 : 00:16:46
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Okay, so I intended to go get the book today and with all I had to do to get ready for my trip tomorrow I never did. I will, however, look for a book store down in Laguna Beach and maybe I'll find it there. I am TOTALLY about healing yourself and taking responsibility for your own part in illness. I LOVE all of the work by Carolyn Myss and have read and re-read Anatomy of the Spirit a dozen times. I was the one who recommended What the Bleep Do We Know back a few months ago. It is fascinating stuff to say the least. I Candace Pert, who plays a big part in that, is someone that Dr. Sarno talks about and endorses.
Keep the book tips coming! I write them all down. I am very eager to check this book out, and I'd also like to finally buy the one everyone talks about (I think it's called Facing the Fire by Dr. Lee??? - don't know as I don't have it written down in front of me).
I'm off to go boogie boarding in Laguna Beach! I'll talk to you all next week when I'm back.
Laura
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johnnyg
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2005 : 08:43:12
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The interesting thing I have found out about the difference b/w Dr Sarno's mindbody approach and others is that Dr Sarno quite literally leaves the body out of the therapy, except to say that exercise is good for the body when you can get back to it. Most other mind body practitioners, recogning that since the mind and body are one, you can't or shouldn't ignore the body, it's there too--they talk about exercise and diet alot more.
I understand that to get over the idea that there is something structurally wrong, it is beneficial for a time to work only on mental issues. Sarno had to solve the dilemma by being intentionally one sided. But getting back to full physical activity, which Dr sarno says we must do, and thus full health, we must also excercise the back. I guess the trick is not confusing your brain into thinking your doing it BECAUSE of any back pain. |
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altherunner
Canada
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Posted - 07/29/2005 : 21:13:50
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I just finished reading "Growing yourself back up", by John Lee.
I really enjtoyed it.(thanks to celestica's reccomendation.)
It is about how we go back to being children when we are stressed,
ie: angry, a job interview, etc. My take on it as a tms person, was that I keep re-living past events that were stressful, without knowing it, adding to my pain and stress, and repression.
He gives tips on not repressing "present anger".An excellent read. |
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ralphyde
USA
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Posted - 07/30/2005 : 20:30:05
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After reading the first chapter of The Journey, I read an interesting criticism of it here:
http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2005/03ap-brandonbays.html
It's called "Hijacking Natural Enlightenment," mostly critical of the commercialism of New Age Gurus such as Brandon Bays. |
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Jim1999
USA
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Posted - 08/05/2005 : 22:44:46
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Originally posted by johnnyg
I understand that to get over the idea that there is something structurally wrong, it is beneficial for a time to work only on mental issues. Sarno had to solve the dilemma by being intentionally one sided. But getting back to full physical activity, which Dr sarno says we must do, and thus full health, we must also excercise the back. I guess the trick is not confusing your brain into thinking your doing it BECAUSE of any back pain.
I think Sarno is correct on this issue.
I like to make an analogy to when I broke my elbow. I didn't need a cast, since the bone was not broken all the way through. The doctor said that, if he put a cast on my arm, the muscles would atrophy severely and special exercise would be required. Since I didn't have a cast, the atrophy would only be moderate. The muscles and joints would recover simply by my gradually increasing the use of my arm. That's all the exercise I needed.
Likewise, my severe TMS resulted in moderate atrophy, the type which could be overcome by gradually increasing my activity level. I didn't need to do any special exercises for my back when I recovered. I now do things that I would have been afraid to do in my early 20s, when my TMS was in the low-to-moderate range.
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Posted - 08/06/2005 : 20:01:07
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One cannot review a book without reading it. That is simply unfair. Chapter 1 is merely the tip of the iceberg of what she says. And the fact that same people (especially Candice Pert) who have been endorsed by Dr. Sarno is also endorsing her work should tell you the value of her work. When you read her personal story and journey your will be astounded by what she has achieved. In places, I felt I was reading Sarno's book as she talked about the role of repressed emotions in creating physical symptoms and how one has to get in touch with those emotions in order to begin the recovery process. Note that Ms. Bays lost everything she owned through a series of personal tragedies and had to start over from scratch.
That review which was posted was so unfair and dishonest I cannot believe it!!! |
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