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avik
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 Posted - 06/02/2011 : 12:37:47
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Ive beaten almost every aspect of my TMS related issues (including Fibro)but Insomnia keeps coming back to haunt me.
Im convinced its just one of the cycles of my TMS; when I have insomnia, I have no other pains b/c my brain isnt focused on anything else.
Utilizing the principles/teachings of Sarno/TMS/MBS-how does one deal with/attack insomnia?
Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. |
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forestfortrees
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Posted - 06/03/2011 : 14:30:03
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One thing to keep in mind, is that sometimes people need to change tactics for different symptoms. You also might want to change the thought process from how to deal with insomnia to deal with TMS/PPD. One thing that might be worth while is to try some form of mindfulness or meditation. There are a lot of books on both of these, and it may be very helpful.
Forest
My favorite TMS Wiki pages: How do I journal?, Affirmations, Sarno on 20/20, Find a TMS Doc. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2011 : 22:13:02
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The main thing is not to fear insomnia. If you fear it then it will be doing it's job as a TMS symptom distraction. If I may suggest, do a search here, insomnia has been mentioned often in the past on this forum. Reading a few pages of posts about it will probably put you to sleep.
DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
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art
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 05:52:10
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Trouble with insomnia, no matter its sourse, is that it's something we try to "fight." By fighting it we feed it.
TT has it right I think. Passive acceptance of an essentially benign condition is the way I go when suffering a bout of it, |
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2011 : 13:33:19
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there is an insomnia book based on TMS principles
don't remember the name - anyone?
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2011 : 18:44:22
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I don't know whether insomnia's TMS - it kind of depends too on your definition of TMS and the variety of causes in your life. But I agree with the others here that learning not to fight or fear insomnia was the key for me. Learning to say "you know what...I'm just going to be very sleepy tomorrow but I'll live and it's not the end of the world" rather than lying awake worrying about something that just wasn't really nearly as awful as I made out.
That and, I have to add, discovering that reading an a bland book would put me to sleep. My previous error for years had been reading a good book at night, but the problem was that that would keep me up. Still, the book can't be downright bad, or I'll put it down. But just the exact level of mildly interesting blandness.
I don't want to insult any authors by naming those I use, but certain popular authors with strings blandish mystery novels can put me to sleep in under 10 minutes...and I've had some bouts of killer insomnia. And I don't have to worry about wasting time on less than brilliant books, because with a perfectly chosen level of blandness, I can stretch just one out over weeks. |
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windy
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2011 : 10:05:10
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The insomnia book Wavy Soul is referring to is "Say Goodnight to Insomnia" By Gregg Jacobs, ph.d.
It takes a behavioral modification approach to insomnia. It works wonders. |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/03/2011 : 01:31:28
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I just came across this article
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The alternative to sleeping pills is to develop good sleep habits and good sleep attitudes. Good sleep habits and attitude are the best approach for a long-term sleep problem, and they produce surprising improvement .
First, remember that most people do not need 8 hours of sleep per night. That old idea just is not so. In our studies in San Diego, the average adult is actually asleep only between 6 and 6.5 hours a night. National polls give similar results. Moreover, in the recent Cancer Prevention Study II results, people who slept 6.5 to 7.5 hours lived a bit longer than people who slept 8 hours or more. The shorter sleepers lived longer! Even people who said that they slept as little as 3.5 hours lived longer than those who slept 8 hours or more! Certainly, if you get only 6.5 or 7 hours of sleep a night and feel rested, you do not have to sleep any more. Incidentally, controlling for other illnesses, age, and so forth, people who said that they had insomnia lived a little longer than those who did not have insomnia! Therefore, do not worry about insomnia!
This is the link
http://www.darksideofsleepingpills.com/ch3.html
Dr Kripke suspects drug manufacturers for promoting the idea that everyone requires 8 hours sleep a night.
There has recently been news stories in the UK about the ideal being 8 hours sleep, which increase the worries for those who normally sleep less. For example one stating that basketball players' prowess improved markedly when they slept 10 hours a night, however these athletes also stopped drinking caffeine and alcohol. Add to that the extra attention they received during the trial, stands to reason their skills might increase.
Anyway, Dr Kripke's article refutes these type of claims so is cheering for the likes of me who only gets about 6 hours a night. |
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balto
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Posted - 07/03/2011 : 08:21:24
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In the past I once suffered from insomnia so bad I could barely go to work. a friend suggested I use reverse psychology. Instead of fear of what would happen to me if this insomnia don't stop, I should tell myself I should be happy and treasure it. Tell yourself that you now have more wake time to do more, read more, play more, planing more... Tell yourself you don't need sleep much. No one ever die from lack of sleep.
It did work for me after a few days. Just like other posters have said, when my fear of insomnia is dead it is also the dead of insomnia. |
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If Insomnia is a TMS equiv. how to deal with it?
