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pspa123
  
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Posted - 07/17/2012 : 21:19:14
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I know the wisdom here is that it does not cause pain -- but how do we KNOW this. Certainly I can understand the theory of the people who say that the constant weight of the head from forward head posture at the computer, or otherwise, can put too much strain on the neck muscles that over time causes them to be tight, develop trigger points, etc. What is the counterargument? |
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tennis tom
    
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Posted - 07/18/2012 : 09:40:56
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quote: Originally posted by pspa123
I know the wisdom here is that it does not cause pain -- but how do we KNOW this. Certainly I can understand the theory of the people who say that the constant weight of the head from forward head posture at the computer, or otherwise, can put too much strain on the neck muscles that over time causes them to be tight, develop trigger points, etc. What is the counterargument?
The "WISDOM" here comes from the Good Doctor's books. He says the back and the rest of the body are STRONG! He headed the NYU Rusk Rehabilitation Institute for many years until his recent retirement. He is a clinical scientist, he has observed the strength of the body and proven it with his own eyes by helping thousands of patients get better. One of my favorite Dr. Sarno lines is "You can't hurt yourself lifting something that was too heavy--because, if it was too heavy too lift you couldn't lift it"--makes sense to me.
Your neck might get tired by holding your head up looking at a computer all day, but you won't tear, damage, cause trigger points, permanent strain, tightness, etc. It will get tired first and after you change positions or rest it for a little while, you are good to go again. Maybe give your neck a little change of pace and do a head stand for ten or twenty minutes.
The people who benefit by spreading these modern old wive's tales are the industries that make money brainwashing us to believe them' The list is too long but the shelves of Walgreen's are lined with the snake oils advertised on TV and all those ambulance chasing attorneys, advertising class action law suits against drugs and surgical procedures that were being touted just a few years ago.
Good or bad posture is BS! There are more effective ways of holding yourself to work with gravity, that's what athletes learn to do. If you think the body is fragile, watch what athletes do on X-Games or the upcoming Olympics.
It's all in the books, keep reading the books until you get rid of the commercial brainwashing old wive's tales.
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Edited by - tennis tom on 07/18/2012 10:12:24 |
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art
   
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Posted - 07/18/2012 : 11:34:26
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I agree with TT for the most part. That said, given the choice between good posture and bad, I'll take the good. Why? Because it looks better than slouching around, and because while the body is strong and generally speaking will not be damaged, why add to our quotient of physical stress. I feel better mentally when I adopt positions that are generally considerd "healthy."
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pspa123
  
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Posted - 07/18/2012 : 14:03:14
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Thank you. TT, if I may follow up, do you believe in "trigger points" as a source of pain at all, as seems to be a very popular notion these days among all manner of physical therapists, massage therapists, etc.? I have never quite understood if this was a documented phenomenon, or simply theory. |
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tennis tom
    
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Posted - 07/18/2012 : 20:11:48
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Maybe the trigger point is the spot where TMS has set in. I don't know and I don't really care. I've had hundreds of sessions of every therapy from Acupuncture to Rolfing, with every point from trigger to Dale Evans poked, prodded, pounded and punctured. If the pain is caused by TMS, any physical treatment will only provide a short term placebo benefit. The pain will either return or seek out a new spot. The point that needs to be manipulated is the point in the head that is causing/triggering the TMS/psychosomatic pain. |
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