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NicoleSachsLCSW

USA
63 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2013 :  14:07:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello lovely TMS Forum folks!

My name is Nicole, and perhaps you've heard a bit of my story. I'm here today because after an insanely busy and difficult time, it seems I have a moment to sit down and write. From time to time I am able to read people's concerns here, and on related sites.

I am an alumnus of Dr. Sarno's, and a speaker on his panels in NYC for years before his retirement. I struggle to convey the depths of my belief in TMS, as each of your posts are SO VALID, and still all I want to do is beg you to believe that TMS is as real as your reflection in the mirror. Without this certainty, it is nearly impossible to heal fully.

Let me tell you why: (and I will skip my WHOLE story, as many know it and it is written in full in my book, so I could never do it justice on a post.) I can tell you, however, my story TODAY. My story is that my death sentence was lifted the day I embraced TMS fully and healed with Dr. Sarno 10 years ago, but as I am human and flawed like you, I still must work hard daily to combat the reality of this phenomena. I may be healed, but my body still is a little pain in the ass, and bugs me with pain when I am too stubborn to look at my issues and my truth.

Don't get me wrong - I no longer fear that something is physically wrong with me. I'm just a stubborn Taurus and sometimes I just don't feel like slowing my own pace to look at my truths in the face (which I KNOW to be the only road to enduring healing.) The curse of my life is that I can't even pretend to go to a pain management Dr. or do the research on why I am hurting. I know TMS is real, as I've lived through a transformative life experience which leaves no question. It is the purist definition of "real" I've ever felt, but that doesn't mean I don't fight with it! I say, "I'll deal with you tomorrow! Leave me alone!!!"

It says, "Fine. No worries. You'll just hurt til then!"

UGH!!! TMS I HATE YOU!!!

Yet, i appreciate you, because my life is my own. I am not afraid. And largely, I am pain free. When my pain comes, it comes in a predictable pattern (as I've already let it know that it can't trick me anymore,) and I look at it like an old frememy who drives me nuts but I love too much to cut off. We argue. I say, "Leave me alone! Can't you see that I just want to have a nice afternoon with my mom!!!" It says, "You know you're not dealing with the way you FEEL about your mom." I say, "F You." It says, "No worries, I'll just keep you in pain." And so on. We like to do this dance...

Then eventually, I've had enough. I turn to my journal, or my therapist, or my own quiet thoughts as I lay in bed. I excavate my truth as I've learned to do. I am unafraid (I can teach you how to do this for yourself as well as I do it,) and then my brain relents. "Ok, you've got me." It says. I say, "I know. I just wasn't ready 'til now."

And so it goes, until our next battle.

I'm sure that this won't make perfect sense to some people, but my message is this: If you can bring yourself to embrace what I'm saying, and cultivate the bravery to seek your deepest truth without fear or apology (no one needs to hear but you,) I PROMISE you, you can heal. No, really. I actually promise. I've been doing this for over 10 years and I watch it all the time in my body. I know it works. Your body will be your proof.

Two things that can explain this further:

1) I wrote a book, and it's not perfect or the best TMS book out there, but it's honest and raw, and for you. It's called The Meaning of Truth. You can get it on Amazon or iTunes or B&N or Lulu.
2) Stephanie Browner (my dear friend and my former Sarno Alumni pal) and I are donating our time to Dr. John Stracks of Northwestern University and the Northwestern Integrative MindBody Medicine Program to recreate an Alumni Panel for people who would like to experience it virtually on May 30th from 6-8pm, Eastern. The flyer link is below. Maybe you would like to check it out. I'm not sure if there is a price for simply calling in, but Dr. Stracks' office can let you know. I'm not receiving any compensation, so I can't be sure of the money thing. I just want every person interested to have the info.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/19KwHywHJNrWS2hivkroAvwQaYItp6wBxvc8DC_b2zusFnu0CApifa13c3M2Q/edit?usp=sharing

I offer every person reading this my most heartfelt support. I know how hard this is, and how much you hurt.

Much love,

Nicole J. Sachs, LCSW

Embrace your Truth, Create your Life.

maccafan

130 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2013 :  15:51:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great post Nicole. And thanks for letting us know about the webinar. I'm going to be there. I mean I'm going to tune in from my computer (sitting in a comfortable chair and with a glass of ice tea). I'm really looking forward to it. I've been curious about these Dr. Sarno panels and now I get to experience one.

Maccafan
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2013 :  17:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why is dr stracks charging $30 a person to watch this? Nicole is donating her free time, why can't dr. Stracks do a a little for free to help the suffering?
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2013 :  19:37:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great question, Ace... and a reminder how lucky people are to have you here helping us all out... with nothing to sell and nothing to gain.

Kudos to you.

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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2013 :  22:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

Why is dr stracks charging $30 a person to watch this?



I would assume he charges for his services as a mindbody doctor as you do for being an oncologist. Ace what is your hourly rate at your office?

Cheers,
tt/lsmft

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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist


Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2013 :  22:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bryan3000

Great question, Ace... and a reminder how lucky people are to have you here helping us all out... with nothing to sell and nothing to gain.

Kudos to you.






Another potshot from Bry who works for free.

Cheers,
tt/lsmft

==================================================

DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

==================================================

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
======================================================

"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist


Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  03:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I honestly don't know how much is charged per hour in my office bc I work for a company. This is different though, this is like me on this forum. No one is visiting me one on one which you have to do to make a living. For example Alan Gordon got on with forest with a pod cast and that was free for everyone. Nicole is giving her time for free and she is is one of the key speakers. That's why I bring up this point.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  07:54:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

I honestly don't know how much is charged per hour in my office bc I work for a company. This is different though, this is like me on this forum. No one is visiting me one on one which you have to do to make a living. For example Alan Gordon got on with forest with a pod cast and that was free for everyone. Nicole is giving her time for free and she is is one of the key speakers. That's why I bring up this point.



I find $30 a negligible cost for someone to shell out if they gain TMS healing from it, compared to the thousands and thousands of dollars and years of pain most TMS sufferers endure.

I find it interesting that you don't know how much you make. If you want to make a guesstimate, you can divide your paycheck by the number of hours you work per pay-period.

Have you thought of leaving your "company" and opening your own practice doing exclusively TMS MINDBODY medicine? When someone comes into your "company's" offfice and your "company" recommends chemo, surgery or other invasive treatments, do you argue for less-invasive complementary cancer treatments such as Dr. Bernie Siegel has for many years?

I do find it interesting how you decide who is worthy of being listened to here and have deemed certifiably TMS "healed" and others you zing and say "You are NOT 100% healed, therefore are not credible to be payed attention to."

Cheers,
tt/lsmft

==================================================

DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

==================================================

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
======================================================

"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist


Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  08:11:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know how much a persons insurance is charged. I guess you don't know how the medical system works. How much I make is independent on how much a person is charged. Like I said one on one visits are different than things were the main speaker is speaking for free like I said its similar to what I'm doing on this forum, it costs very little if abything to run.
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  08:21:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No most people wouldn't come to me if I was just mind body phyisican plus insurance would not cover their visits. I may have greater impact by planting the seed. Its nothing against you particularly but if your not healed or continuing to get to a better state than you don't know how to heal yourself and therefore you can't heal others. It's like a supossed mechanic driving a car with broken muffler. I don't know why that doesn't make sense to you. I don't know you, so why would I selectively choose to ignore you? Once your healed we would love to see how you did it.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  08:23:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1



I guess you don't know how the medical system works.



You are absolutely RIGHT, I don't know how the "medical system" works-- it's a BROKEN system--I believe that's why we're all here. Doctor you are usually effusive with your complements around here that's why I found your calling out a fellow doctor who is trying to help and is charging a pittance for it. Are you sure you understand the circumstances of why Dr. Stacks is charging $30? Why does a cotton swab cost $30 dollars when you get it in a hospital?

To Nicole: As they say, "Let no good deed go unpunished."

Cheers,
tt/lsmft

Edited by - tennis tom on 05/22/2013 08:24:25
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:14:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ace,

There's gold in them hills!

And their truly is. Anyone who comes around pitching a book or webinar is looked at as having instant cred. In fact, it seems as if people are more willing to accept vague, unspecific advice from a salesperson than they are someone who can demonstrate their results but isn't a profiteer on the suffering of others. There must be a psychology at play. It's a cult-like phenomenon. Then you have hucksters kicking in the door with the latest book and promises of 2 hour "cures."

As you accurately pointed out, there is a big difference between someone's place of work and a free, community support forum that's point is to mutually benefit from collective intelligence. It's like someone trying to hock their recovery book at an AA meeting. Something about it defies the purpose of the setting.

There is enough free info out there for people to recover thanks to the tireless work of people like you, Hillbilly, Balto and others who put collective healing over profit.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:27:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr. Stracks seems like our type of guy, and let's not lose sight of the fact that he isn't the one advertising his seminar here, unless one makes some very cynical assumptions.

"Dr. Stracks believes that the mind and body are intimately connected and that almost all disease processes involve an interplay between the two. His training in integrative medicine has taught him that all treatment plans must include not only a mind and body component but a social and spiritual component as well. In addition, Dr. Stracks believes that the most powerful interventions involve changes in nutrition, activity level, and other lifestyle areas, and he works to partner with patients to effect these changes. Dr. Stracks believes that many conditions can be controlled or even reversed with mind-body techniques, lifestyle changes, and other integrative therapies, and he likes working with patients and their primary physicians to safely reduce medication use whenever possible."
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pspa,

That cut and pasted paragraph sounds like pretty standard-issue MB material.
I'm not sure I'd say he's one of "our kind" based solely on that.
By that standard we can include our recent 2-hour-cure "expert" to be one of our kind.

Personally, I prefer to look at the body of work someone has... speicially, personal accounts of success from objective parties using their methods. Great examples of that includes Hillbilly and Ace's work around here.

Agree that Dr. Stracks isn't doing the advertising here. I suppose Ace just may have wondered why a fellow healthcare professional may have been advertising the product here, considering the nature of a community support forum. If someone who had healed using the paid seminar had posted the links, my guess is that people may have responded differently.

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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:43:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bryan3000

Ace,

There's gold in them hills!

...Anyone who comes around pitching a book or webinar is looked at as having instant cred.

...it seems as if people are more willing to accept vague, unspecific advice from a salesperson than they are someone who can demonstrate their results but isn't a profiteer on the suffering of others.

...There must be a psychology at play.

...It's a cult-like phenomenon.

...Then you have hucksters kicking in the door with the latest book and promises of 2 hour "cures."




Bry, I'll let your words speak for themselves. YES!, there's a "psychology at play"--and it's YOURS. Thank G-d Dr. Sarno doesn't come here to contribute, YOU would be the first to have him BANNED as a capitalist pig profiteer pedalling his wares on flimsy evidence. According to Ace's criteria you should NOT be listened to since you have NOT passed his threshold of being TMS "cured"--so I won't.

FYI, for those of you who are new to Bryan's, "TMS author bashing parties", the two other's he is referring to as "profiteers" off the "suffering" of others are two highly respected and credentialed authors who have learned from the original TMS source, the Good Doctor Sarno himself, and have selflessly contributed here and at the TMS Wiki, Steven Ray Ozanich and Nicole Sachs AND now Bry's bashing Dr. Stracks.

I'll provide some links to their sites so you'll can judge for yourselves if they are guilty as Bryan has charged:

http://www.nmpg.com/physician/john-stracks-md

http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/John_Stracks,_MD

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-09-14/features/ct-tribu-deardorff-writing-healthy_1_neck-pain-physical-symptoms-emotions-and-stress

https://docs.google.com/file/d/19KwHywHJNrWS2hivkroAvwQaYItp6wBxvc8DC_b2zusFnu0CApifa13c3M2Q/edit?pli=1

Nicole Sachs, LCSW's Chronic Pain Recovery
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlADyoGeqw

http://meaningoftruthbook.com/me/

http://www.paindeception.com/

http://nortonsafe.search.ask.com/videos?q=steve+ozanich+tms+wiki+youtube&geo=&prt=&o=&chn=&ver=&tpr=2


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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:47:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bryan I wasn't vouching for his abilities or comparing him to anyone, just noting that he seemed to be a MB type.
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  09:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fair enough Pspa. I hope those who can afford his seminar will benefit from it.
Maybe someone will report back here.
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maccafan

130 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  13:41:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You don’t have to be totally cured from every symptom of TMS to consider yourself a success story. The vast majority of TMs sufferers will continue to have pain or discomfort of some kind here and there throughout their lives. Their original TMS pain may even try to come back at times. The difference is and their success lies in the fact that they now have acquired Dr. Sarno’s knowledge and they know how to stop the returning or new symptoms. By having been able to stop their past pain they now have the confidence and trust in themselves to stop any future pain. Some even though they have been able to stop most of their symptoms may still have one that hasn’t stopped or completely gone away (YET). But now they have the tools to continue their work thanks to authors like Dr. Sarno, Steve O. and Nicole Sachs, to eventually succeed. Steve O. still has occasional symptoms and Dr. Sarno, himself still has ocular migraines and something else that I can’t remember right now and look what he has done for us all!

I consider myself a great success story even though I still have tinnitus, which I’m still working on and old past symptoms sometimes try to return. I’m a TMS success story because with Dr. Sarno’s knowledge I have been able to STOP these incredibly painful symptoms:

* lower back pain (no visible disc between L4 and L5)
* knee pain
* teeth and gum pain
* vulvodynia
* interstitial cystitis symptoms
* levator ani syndrome
* IBS
* frozen shoulder (both)
* feet pain
* wrist pain
* neck pain
* hiatus hernia pain
* pain from site of past breast biopsy
* hot flashes
* headaches
* dizziness
* sharp shooting pains anywhere on the skin and ears

I’m a success because whenever one of these symptoms even tries to return I now KNOW WHAT TO DO! Before Dr. Sarno I was running to this and that doctor trying to get the answers and help for my nightmare of pain and NEVER finding any. And this costs me way more than any $30.

I think Dr. Stracks intention is TMS education and getting the word out to those who may not have any TMS knowledge yet. And to provide examples of some who have been successful with the knowledge. I want to see and hear (not just read ) what the panel members say about their own experiences with TMS. I don’t think Dr. Stracks is trying to get rich and retire off his webinar. Pspa 123 is right about Dr. Stracks.


Ace, I don’t care if you think I’m a success story, healed, cured or not. Most posters here are not what you consider totally “healed”. But they are still on this forum seeking help and TRYING TO HELP OTHERS and deserve to be listened to. That’s what this forum is all about. Whether someone is letting the forum know about a true TMS book (and what it costs), a true TMS Webinar (and what it costs) or a free TMS web chat, it’s all good.

Also, Ace I’ve noticed that you have been negative towards Nicole Sachs at times but not as horribly as Bryan. And I’ve wondered if that is because you are thinking of or are writing a book yourself about “strains or whatever” and will want to advertise it here on this forum. And I wonder if you think because you’ve done time spreading your opinions here that it would be different for (you) to do this? NOPE, it wouldn’t be. And if this does happen, I’ll let you know now that I will be as nice and fair to you as Bryan has been to Nicole Sachs and others. Just Sayin’.

MACCAFAN

Edited by - maccafan on 05/22/2013 16:44:06
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  17:22:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maccafan,
I have no direct intension of writing a book as of now and if I ever did, all the information that was important to recovery would have been already stated on this forum for free. Im a doctor, i don't need the revenue from a book. Look back and see what I wrote to Nicole in the past before you speak, it only had to do with the coming for the first time on this forum with advertising, that is all. I think others like pspa also felt the same way. I think you are somewhat closed minded based on this post and your previous posts and seem to jump on the bandwagon of others that have complimented you. I am not aware of any advice that you have given on this forum that has helped anyone, but yet you speak as if you are a regular, helping on this forum. If I'm wrong about this, id love to hear hat from the member that was helped. You might be better but your not cured. To have occasional symptoms that are mild are fine. However if you have continuous symptoms and you don't have long symptom-free breaks, then, no, you are not cured, sorry, believe what you want, but that simply is not the truth. Symptoms just shift if the psychological need is still there, so if you got rid of certain symptoms to be bothered by another one, you are really no different then you were before. Like hillbilly said, he said first ask the if the person giving advice is cured and if not, don't listen. I agree wholehearted with this. Now if someone is improving constantly (every month they're better). That person can be good at advising, but may not fully understand the process yet (healing is a spectrum). Therefore, I'm not saying people who aren't cured shouldn't give advice, but they have to be aware that they may not fully understand the details, that's all. I'm not here to defend my intentions (which are genuine) to people like yourself. Therefore this will be my last post on this particular thread.
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  17:33:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

Maccafan,
I have no direct intension of writing a book as of now and if I ever did, all the information that was important to recovery would have been already stated on this forum for free.




You know, it's fascinating, really. All of the people who HAVE been cured, and who HAVE helped directly cure or improve other people say this exact same thing.

Yet, the snake-oil set... who come in with a product to sell... seem to have little or no actual proof of anyone they've actually helped. Oh, they'll tell you they have a 2-hour cure, or that they're important because they worked with XYZ. But, they can't bring you real people... they can't show you who they've helped. They aren't here tirelessly offering their time and expertise outside of their employment. (Like Balto, Ace, Hillbilly, Dr. Z, Dr. A and other charitable, caring souls.)

Amazing, isn't it? That people would fight so hard to protect profiteering on people's suffering... instead of supporting the purpose for which this community was created.

And by the way, I have no doubt that if you ever wrote a book, Ace... you'd give it away for the purpose of greater good. I'm not quite there yet, but I look forward to the day I am back to 100% and can donate my time to give back to the cause as you and so many here have.



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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2013 :  18:23:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Two of the most delusional posts I've ever seen here, not worthy of responding to, we've beaten this crap to death in other pissing matches. I've got better things to do with my time. Dr. Ace, just curious how many hours you spent "shadowing" Dr. Sarno at NYU Rusk?

Dr Ace, paragraphs please!

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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

==================================================

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist


Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
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