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swmr1
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 Posted - 05/26/2010 : 05:50:06
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For me, the only way to feel like you're in control is to challenge the pain. Go run. If the pain isn't any worse than it was without running--you've won a battle!!! Win a few battles and you'll soon be back to your normal activities and unafraid.
I know it's just a movie, but "Cinderella Man" has a scene where the main character hurts his hand boxing and then has to use that hand over and over (while it's hurt) to work just to provide food for his family. His hand eventually heals even though he isn't babying it or receiving medical care. I'm sure our ancestors had their share of working through pain and injury just to survive. The human body is a pretty hearty machine. I like to challenge the fear instead of just sitting around dreading what I fear might happen. |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2010 : 09:55:43
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Originally posted by swmr1
For me, the only way to feel like you're in control is to challenge the pain. Go run. If the pain isn't any worse than it was without running--you've won a battle!!! Win a few battles and you'll soon be back to your normal activities and unafraid.
Excellent advice.
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2010 : 11:19:33
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So if it hurts thats ok? I have had times where I went to challenge it and I was more sore? Do you have to ignore it to a certain extent and push through, even when it hurts?
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2010 : 13:03:58
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My grandmother was hit by a car back in the 1920s. Everything hurt her and they told her she would never walk again. Not only did she walk fine but ran fast for the rest of her life. Another friend of mine had back pain so severe that he crawled on the floor to the bathroom and once he got there, he'd say "OK, now how do I get up to the toilet?" Well, at the age of 60, he was determined to be ok and became a body builder and instructor, personal trainer.
This is before all the books...just sheer determination. I know for myself, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia about 15 years ago, joined a chat room for people with fibro and almost all of them were on disability, stayed home and online all day. My rheumatologist told me to get moving and that's what I did. I quit my job and took one that makes me walk all day, outdoors. I got better, still have pains but they are mostly in my face and teeth for reasons I still am not sure of, but the muscle pains all over went away. So, whoaday, keep moving and I hope you're feeling better now. |
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hsb
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Posted - 05/26/2010 : 14:02:34
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| my biggest fear if i run with this achilles tendonosis is that the pain will get worse and not go away. tendonosis is a wearing away of the collagen. i know that i really probalby have nothing to lose as it hurts 24/7 even when i am not running. it's been 5 months of treatments to no avail. it's the thinking that is my issue - thinking that there is some treatment i haven't tried or done better and the thinking that running will make it worse and permanent. as i said earlier, doctors feel a rupture is easier to treat than tendonosis --- they basically say you have to find a treatment htat works, i.e. ultrasound, e-stim, specific exercises to build the collagen back up, ART, etc. i guess i could go out and run for 2 minutes and be in the same pain as before ...... it's the thinking then --- think that it's not a big deal?????? |
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 05/26/2010 : 14:20:32
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See, for me it's not just the TMS stuff. I developed CPPS (Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome) right after I got engaged and have it still and have been married a year 3 days ago! IT's not as bad as it was before but its this terrible pain inside the rectum the perineum and piriformis pain in the butt really. I went to seven months of physical therapy with a lady who did myofascial work and put her finger inside to loosen the muscle and it didn't help. I finally really stopped doing any physical treatment most days it's ok but sex still hurts and I have a loss of desire because of the pain. Funny David Wise who talks about this issue and does a clinic on it talks of the physical but also the mental that the anxiety and tensing is what started this. So he agrees anxiety and tension started. However, he also believes that unless you treat it physically it wont go away. So I guess I still have some of that conditioning. It's hard to let go.
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 05/27/2010 : 16:09:56
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My days off have gotten better. I decided to try and do what Monte says and be present today...when I am in the shower I usually daydream or think of other things but today I reminded myself to just be in the moment. IT seemed to help
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 15:36:23
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Here I am again. I'm not sure what anyone can say about this, but I needed to "vent" I guess. My stomach has always been an issue. I had colic as a baby and IBS diagnosed since I was 9. I have stomach pains all the time at least a few days a week to a few times a day. Lately (past few months) its been worse a long with heartburn. Ive been to the doctor's all the time does GI studies with barium (yum) and countless other tests all I ever get diagnosed with is IBS. I realize all of this can be TMS equivalents but really the issue seems to happen everytime I eat. I tend to feel bloated and gassy. Usually when this happen I get headaches or just generally feel blah (sometimes sinus issues, producing phlegm. I had an allergy test a few months back I was tested for everything under the sun. I'm allergic to grass and trees as I always have been. Came back negative for food though have heard its unreliable. Did a celiac test twice was negative.
I just have a hard time eating...the same foods ive always eaten but seem to make me feel bad. When my stomach feels bad typically the rest of me feels bad.
Can it be TMS that's just hurting and food is a coincidence or can TMS cause food allergies. I've also food fast eating bland then trying things before for about 30 days and no change.
Any thoughts?
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 16:51:56
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Originally posted by Whoaday
...Ive been to the doctor's all the time does GI studies with barium (yum) and countless other tests all I ever get diagnosed with is IBS. I realize all of this can be TMS equivalents but really the issue seems to happen everytime I eat.
...I had an allergy test a few months back I was tested for everything under the sun. I'm allergic to grass and trees as I always have been. Came back negative for food though have heard its unreliable. Did a celiac test twice was negative.
Can it be TMS that's just hurting and food is a coincidence or can TMS cause food allergies. I've also food fast eating bland then trying things before for about 30 days and no change.
Any thoughts?
Whoaday
This is the TMS board, therefore it's TMS. If it's one thing modern medicine is good at is dx'ing disease. You've been checked-out repeatedly, therefore that leaves TMS. The psychological term is conditioning. You eat food and your sub-conscious has been conditioned to cause TMS/IBS, (h'mm, I B S what a coincidence).
The TMS literature is full of info on your TMS, symptom. I recommend you immerse yourself in the books until you are brain-washed and understand how this works. Also go to the Rahe-Holmes list of life's stressors and pick the one's that are causing your TMS.
Good luck and here's to a future full of Bon Apetites for you.
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2010 : 21:38:28
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Originally posted by Whoaday
Any thoughts?
Whoaday
Hello Whoaday, any thoughts on my thoughts, enquiring minds want to know?
Have you had a chance to look up what your stressors are on the Rahe-Holmes list?
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2010 : 17:40:23
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TT Thanks a lot! I liked what you had to say...cause it's like I know it's TMS but I dont know how to make it go away...I'm in the literature...I get it...but I guess I don't get it at the same time. I will go check the symptoms on the Rahe-Holmes soon.
Thanks
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2010 : 17:57:01
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I just did it and i scored 334 which means im *at risk for illness*
I already knew that...how does that help?
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2010 : 19:35:32
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I didn't realize you could have a score. I was referring to checking the list for guidance in discovering which stressful life situations are filling up your TMS reservoir of rage, resulting in psychosomatic symptoms for defense mechanisms.
Which situations on the list of life stressors are you currently grappling with?
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2010 : 12:08:46
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I would say work (I'm a youth pastor) Finances, and In laws.
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Whoaday
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2010 : 12:12:10
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Again I dont know how that helps as Dave would probably point out that those are all on the surface. I can't seem to get rid of the stress cause of my reactions. Case in point. Was having a few good days..then our cars (My wifes and mine) had some problems more money than we had so we had to borrow from my folks. Stress. Then at work...pastor is going on vacation so I preach and have other responsibilities. Stress. My wife cant find a job she went to school to be a teacher. Teaching right now is not hiring very much. stress. Realize all this I meditate every day for at least a half and hour and do one at night...and while my symptoms are better, they never go away.
I've been checked out as you say but all of this really sucks the life out of me. So many deal with more stress than I do and yet, they handle it better. I have to find a way to handle it. I worry about everything, it's frustrating.
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2010 : 17:55:56
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Thanks for the answers Whoaday, I'm at work, so a quick question, what does your TMS doctor friend advise you on how to handle all this?
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2010 : 18:40:51
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You got me confused with another guy...I do not have an TMS doctor friend
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tennis tom
USA
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2010 : 20:28:31
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It's cool. Do you have anymore thoughts for me?
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2010 : 01:42:36
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Exercise to keep your strength up to face your life challenges. Keep reading Sarno and other TMS books until it sinks into your sub-conscious. Thank G-d for the gift of harmless, benign, TMS physical pain as a protection from even more painful emotional pain.
Meditate on the list of mantras that Dr. Sarno lists in his books.
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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