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swmr1
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 Posted - 06/09/2010 : 05:32:46
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Maybe I have a mind twisted from too many years of high-intensity swimming, but my reaction to these kinds of things (stomach issues, aches and pains that can't be easily explained) is not to shrink back from them and feel like a victim. My reaction is to be annoyed and vow to challenge the hell out of them. I don't know if that's too weird for you but it really works for me.
Sitting back and thinking about why all these things are happening and worrying only makes things worse for me. Going ahead with my day the way I want to (including intense physical activity) and saying "to hell with this issue" has almost always been an effective way to help me feel better. I feel in control and not like the victim of my own body. I also start paying less attention to niggling issues that I think many people have but don't pay much attention to. Shift your focus.
If that is too wacky, ignore. But it works for me :) |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2010 : 08:48:03
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Originally posted by swmr1
If that is too wacky, ignore. But it works for me :)
It is not wacky at all. It makes perfect sense.
The goal is to diffuse the power the symptoms have over us. Everyone needs to find the method that works best for them. |
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2010 : 09:20:20
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I agree. I did not find that to be wacky at all. Thanks swmr1
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swmr1
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2010 : 11:58:30
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You're welcome  Wishing you the best. |
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 12:41:26
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Hey guys,
Here is my current dilemma. For about 2-3 weeks now I have had consistent day to day heartburn. It may go away for a few hours but no matter what I eat, it gets me. I recognize GERD to be a TMS equivelent but when I get it, I also get a headache and I overall feel like trash. It makes me feel a little lightheaded, and just generally blah. What can I do about this? It makes it really hard to get through my day.
There is a lot of stress right now hundreds and hundreds of dollars going into my car right now that I don't have and church stuff...but these kinds of situations are going to happen throughout life...I have GOT to be able to get through these. I read the books, I think psycologically, I do relaxation cd's everyday.
Does anyone relate to the feeling that heartburn and headache and trashy feeling?
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marsha
252 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 18:27:33
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Take an anti-acid ..Tums..Malox..Pepsid ..or any over the counter product. That should help. You do not have to be a martyr and it will help you get through the day. The overall crummy feeling you are having is most likely a by-product of the heart burn.
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 19:16:12
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Marsha,
Thank you, but that's why i wrote. I have taken all of them and it really isn't helping.
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marsha
252 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 19:50:51
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Then maybe you need a prescription medication.
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 20:32:57
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Hello, I'm one of those "old timers' and haven't posted in a while, but I still cruz thru now and then. Hey, it's just tms. Forget the tums and all the other medications. They won't really help, at least they never helped me. I've had all your symptoms and then some. You just have to quit isolating each symptom thinking that each might really be something horrible. Treat them all the same. Each new symptom always brings on the fear and creates alot of physical misery. Fear is what gives your tms power. I'm in total agreement with Baseball. It's all tms. My theory is unless there is blood or broken bones, I'm treating it with Sarno. You will come to realize what bulls--t all the symptoms are. When you are able to call their bluff, you will shorten their existence. You will be shocked how simple it is.
Best to you, Susie
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 21:09:41
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Susie,
Thank you! Can you give some practical ways to call their bluff?
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2010 : 21:39:10
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Sure. It's just a basic awareness that there is nothing wrong with you. All your symptoms are meaningless. The more the gremlin can scare the sh-t out of you, the worse you will feel. Your brain is happiest when it can find something to make you very fearful, like maybe you have a brain tumor or colon cancer. The more credible the symptom, the more you will worry about that as opposed to what is really bothering you.
Look, it's not easy at first and it takes alot of practice, but those of us that conquer this all do it the same way. You will notice that most of the newcomers are very descriptive with their symptoms. They offer great detail as though it will provide a key to their illness. As you progress, you realize that the psychological is really all that counts. I can remember going to doctors and listing each symtom in their exact order of occurance. Of course, the doctors had no idea what was wrong with me because none of the symptoms related to each other. I could have ibs with migranes and then a sinus infection. Nobody had ever heard of such an illness. I was actually e-mailing a doctor in Catmandu for advice. He was an expert in parasite born illness.I had bad ibs at the time. Sounds crazy now but it was dead serious then. That was like 10 years and alot of misery ago.
There is no shortcut. You just have to get your mind around it. Journaling seemed to help me and I still do it every once in a while. Fear is the big enemy. If you let it take over it can contro; you. I get new symptoms every once in a while but they are short lived. I might start to believe and then go NAH, no way. You totally have the power to make this go away. All these symptoms are really harmless, just ****ty. Sarno gives you the tools. You just gotta use em. |
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forestfortrees
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 23:25:55
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Originally posted by Whoaday
For about 2-3 weeks now I have had consistent day to day heartburn. It may go away for a few hours but no matter what I eat, it gets me. I recognize GERD to be a TMS equivelent but when I get it, I also get a headache and I overall feel like trash. It makes me feel a little lightheaded, and just generally blah. What can I do about this? It makes it really hard to get through my day.
There is a lot of stress right now hundreds and hundreds of dollars going into my car right now that I don't have and church stuff.
I had GERD and successfully treated it using a TMS approach. I don't have any great secrets, though; I just decided to stop worrying about it and it went away. Like they say, TMS feeds on fear.
BTW, you might like some of the success stories on the wiki's GERD and reflux pages:
http://tmswiki.wetpaint.com/page/Gastroesophageal+Reflux+Disease+%28GERD%29
http://tmswiki.wetpaint.com/page/Acid+Reflux
Forest
My story at tmswiki.org |
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2010 : 19:46:21
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Hey
Someone help answer this for me. One of my most pervasive symptoms is this fuzzy head/out of it, almost light headed type of feeling. It happens a lot. While, I can see it happen when I am stressed it sometimes happens for no reason at all. I was at the video store where Great deals were up cause it's closing, and I all of the sudden got the feeling again.
I am a part of the anxiety centre website and they say symptoms can happen even when you are relaxed because of stress still not burnt off in your body.
What is it in relation to TMS...I was enjoying myself and it hit.
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2010 : 10:39:18
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Originally posted by Whoaday
While, I can see it happen when I am stressed it sometimes happens for no reason at all.
This is something you need to accept about TMS. Consider the symptoms to be random. There is no significance to when they occur or how bad they are, except in the case of conditioning, where you will feel certain symptoms when you most expect them.
What you are doing -- focusing on the symptom -- is entirely counterproductive to TMS recovery. You need to train yourself to ignore them and shift your thoughts to psychological issues whenever you are aware of them. |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2010 : 01:14:34
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Well we are at my Wife's parents house and they have a TERRIBLE bed we sleep on
Whoaday,
Can I change the emphasis here -
Well we are AT MY WIFE'S PARENTS HOUSE and they have a terrible bed we sleep on
Relationships with family are often causes of TMS in my experience.
You could look up Baseball65's posts. They provide a useful guide on being honest about your feelings.
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2010 : 14:24:11
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Hey My wife's parents are actually great...they are 100 percent supportive...she has another set that we dont see (divorced family) they cause the drama...
Anyways...subjective question I recently purchased and received the Unlearn your pain book. It looks like a lot of work. It seems most of it involves Writing. I know some people say writing is bogus. Has anyone has success with this, and Dave, in general what are things you did to get better. I don't know if you have a post on that somewhere you could link me too or just give the Reader's Digest version.
Thanks,
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2010 : 16:00:12
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It is up to each individual to find a method that works best. If you try to follow a method that you believe is "a lot of work" then it may not be for you.
Don't get me wrong, recovery does require work. But it is not necessary to follow a rigid program. You need to recondition your response to the pain, and try to uncover the potential sources of unconscious rage in your life.
As for writing, I find journaling to be a useful tool. In my opinion, writing exercises different pathways of the brain and may help to uncover feelings that you might otherwise not get in touch with. I believe writing in a journal should be a free-form exercise. You should write whatever comes into your mind, with no censorship, no editing. Let the thoughts take you wherever they may lead. Be brutally honest about your feelings even if you feel embarassed about them, or reflect badly on people who are close to you. Ensure the privacy of your journal, so that you are free to write whatever comes to mind without any fear that someone else might read it.
As for the suggestion that visiting your wife's family is not a potential source of inner rage, be aware that many of the things that contribute to TMS are things we don't believe is bothering us on a conscious level. Sometimes, it is the very things we think are "great" in our lives that need further examination. |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 01:20:27
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If your parents-in-law are great maybe you are envious of the close relationship they have with your wife?
I am not meaning to criticise anyone.
Personally, I had many skewed views from my childhood and teen years, and this affected my attitude to people.
But I had had them so long (decades) they were completely normal to me, thus very hard to uncover.
I now understand myself better and have fewer TMS symptoms. |
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 13:59:51
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Hey I understand what you are saying...I shouldn't say they don't cause me stress...I'm sure most people do cause some level of stress...who knows...I just don't see them much (maybe once a year) so I didn't put them in high priority...
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Whoaday
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2010 : 18:35:25
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Hey guys,
Happy 4th! Just wanted some clarification...I have so many odd physical pains I have mentioned before...but I noticed when one goes away...another takes it's place...is this typical TMS?
I have the pelvic issues...that are mild most days but always there, making sex with my wife painful, which is unfortunate, as we've only been married a little over a year....but my back was hurting the past few days...though that was because we were on a mission trip and doing a lot of physical stuff I wasn't used to, but once the back pain subsided, the pelvic pain came back. If that isn't there, I have a headache....forever with the IBS, I get bad gas which makes my back hurt...on and on...is it just tms finding other places?
Thanks
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