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cakeflowfatt

28 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:20:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not THAT kind of 'coming out' but telling friends, family, strangers about TMS.

How did they react?

Do you see people suffering and it now seems so obvious to you?

I have felt many times like I would like to tell people what I have experienced but fear they wouldn't be open to it and would think I am a nut.

Sometimes I do.

plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:30:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm judicious in terms of who I'll discuss it with. I've talked at length about tms with my parents and my partner and we've some amazing conversations.

Someone in my extended family is a doctor and he would dismiss it immediately which is ironic because he is suffering terribly. It's awful to see him in such emotional pain and I try to broach it in other ways but ultimately the ball is in his court.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:31:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well .... after my Mom died under very trying circumstances (pedestrian accident), my Dad developed a neurological problem with his face that has defied diagnosis. I have politely suggested to him many times that it is may well be a stress response, but he finds that quite offensive. I think he is on his fifth specialist now, still searching in vain.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:33:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trust me cakeflowfatt, I hear what you are saying as I think we all do here. I have to be careful who I talk to about TMS and guess in advance their reaction. If I feel they are not receptive, I just say I have some health issues and leave it at that, or say nothing at all. I am sorry to tell you that most people will not be receptive to TMS theory. I know that can be frustrating, especially when you see people close to you who clearly have TMS -- I can name at least a dozen -- and yet they completely close their minds.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:35:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plum



Someone in my extended family is a doctor and he would dismiss it immediately....



Honest to God, I would love to punch some of these doctors right in the face until my fist comes right out the back of their heads.
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting topic...

I find most people are fairly open to it. The trick getting them to believe that the pain is real, and that you're not saying it's "in their head."

Dr. A covers this very well in his free seminar he gave here for download. I think it's in hour 4?

My dad (naturally) was the only person to really poo-poo the idea. He's had back pain due to a "bulging disk" for ages. Had a surgery that
did nothing, the usual. Yet, he'll go to his grave insisting it's a physical problem. There's no amount of evidence that will change his mind.

But, I've found most to be fairly open to it... particularly if you give the information to them slowly.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are they open Bryan or are they just humoring you? I think many people nod their heads and say "I see, that's rather interesting." And then when you look away they roll their eyes in disbelief.
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cakeflowfatt

28 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:44:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have told a couple coworkers who where dealing with issues about TMS. Even loaned Dr Sarnos book to one for his wife.
I took their silence on the matter in later conversations as a polite 'no thanks'.

I find it funny that more people probably believe there is something wrong with their Chakras than something as sensible as your brain is telling your body to do something unconsciously!


Edited by - cakeflowfatt on 01/25/2013 12:49:13
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  12:50:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From my experience on CFS boards, I surmise that the reason people so much prefer a physical diagnosis is that a psychological one somehow implies fault or weakness as opposed to just being freakin' human.
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:08:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Terribly upset. They are willing to accept all kinds of bizarre alternative treatments but the notion that "their" brain is involved is deeply upsetting.
Some pelvic pain sufferers I know have spent their entire life savings on multiple bogus experimental surgeries.
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bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:10:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shawnsmith

Are they open Bryan or are they just humoring you? I think many people nod their heads and say "I see, that's rather interesting." And then when you look away they roll their eyes in disbelief.



Hahaha! Yeah, maybe they think I'm a kook.

I'm fairly select in those I talk to about it, so I have a pretty good feel for most of them when they're being honest. Though like I said, my dad wanted no part of it.

Pspa,

I agree... some people simply can't stand the notion that they may be responsible for what's going on in their body.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's one of my favorite alternative treatments.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pda_-_photon_directed_action.htm
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:15:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123

Here's one of my favorite alternative treatments.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pda_-_photon_directed_action.htm



Great find! Unbelievable.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:20:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are a little more mainstream you can go for this.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/anodyne.html

And I personally endorse this testing for CFS sufferers.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/meridian_energy_assessment_-mea-.html

Edited by - pspa123 on 01/25/2013 13:21:20
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123

Here's one of my favorite alternative treatments.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/pda_-_photon_directed_action.htm



Hahahaha -- What a nut job this clown is.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:30:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alix/Shawn he is one of thousands. I went through a phase where I was researching every possible treatment under the sun. You absolutely would not believe what's out there if you haven't done the same. From applied kinesiology to hand held scanners identifying the issues with your biofield to sublingual drops with imprinted energies that will detoxify your cells thereby removing energetic blockages to subluxations to who knows what else. All of course claiming overwhelming success. Ya think any of em work by placebo effect? NAH.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:35:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last one. This is my favorite of all. Naturally, it is mostly chiropractors who offer it, although a couple of MDs do as well.

http://www.neshealth.com/nes-mihealth.aspx
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pspa: I am afraid, I have done some of those. It is terrible but you either look for new treatments or you fall into despair. Looking for a solution, anything, is what keeps you going.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:41:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alix

pspa: I am afraid, I have done some of those. It is terrible but you either look for new treatments or you fall into despair. Looking for a solution, anything, is what keeps you going.



Oh I didn't mean to imply I hadn't. My scorn is only from hindsight. A sadder but a wiser (and poorer) man he rose the morrow morn.

Edited by - pspa123 on 01/25/2013 13:41:54
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123

quote:
Originally posted by alix

pspa: I am afraid, I have done some of those. It is terrible but you either look for new treatments or you fall into despair. Looking for a solution, anything, is what keeps you going.



Oh I didn't mean to imply I hadn't. My scorn is only from hindsight. A sadder but a wiser (and poorer) man he rose the morrow morn.



What I always love to read are the testimonials! So heartfelt and sincere...
Yes I am much poorer too.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2013 :  13:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We all have tried some desperate things with a view to recovering, but now that we are informed about what we need to do in order to get better, we can look back and laugh at ourselves.
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