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tennis tom
USA
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 Posted - 11/04/2014 : 08:01:50
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AJM22,
Off the top of my head, and since this is a TMS board I agree with your assessment that your issue is psychosomatic. But the TMS fear as a distraction, compounded by your past surgery, creates doubts on bad days for you that it's TMS--thus keeping the TMS ball in play.
From a symptomatic relief perspective, I find eating lots of garlic and drinking coffee keeps the plumbing from my rectal treasure chest articulating very well, and maybe some red wine too.
G'luck!
tt/lsmft
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http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
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"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise" - Thomas Gray
"All my friends in Los Angeles are the sensitive type. They all have like all the diseases like Chronic Fatigue, Epstien Barr, Fibromyalgia. Like all the diseases where the only symptoms seem to be you had a really crappy childhood and at the prospect of full time work ya feel kinda achy and tired."
Posted by Skizzik @ TMSHelp from comedian Maria Bamford
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod
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Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.
"...there are so many things little and big that are tms, I wouldn't have time to write about all of them": Told to icelikeaninja by Dr. Sarno
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
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ajm222
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Posted - 11/04/2014 : 12:06:38
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| thanks, tom! like i said, even though there may have been very rare moments here or there back when i was medicated that i wondered if the surgery caused anatomical changes, i just wasn't worried (about anything) back then. and i was able to just live my life and not think about it, and i was happy and didn't have any major issues that i can remember. since coming off, the OCD i've always had got worse and i have been obsessing about this for 5 years, some days more than others. and i do that thing where i think if i truly just stop worrying about it, and be less vigilant about going to the bathroom, that's when i will get backed up and have real problems. so instead of waking up and starting my day however i feel like starting it, i wake up and sit around with one or several cups of coffee and wait to do anything until after i've gone to the bathroom. then i feel free to get on with my life, at least until tomorrow. not a good way to go about things. i also have this sense (probably related to the OCD as well), that this problem, real or imagined, makes my body no longer pefect and clean or not damaged or however you want to put it, and then distresses me greatly. and i need to learn that it's not my fault if it is, and nothing i can really do about it if it is. though there is always that lingering doubt that maybe someone can 'fix' me. |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/10/2014 : 07:59:29
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| Anyone get a sort of burning or tingling anus with all this problem? Feels like i have had a hot curry the night before lol. I am slowly starting to stop clenching and most of last week and the weekend I have been loads better. I am now just getting in the mind set of someone who doesn't give a crap about this pain. |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2014 : 14:00:53
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Originally posted by alfaman147
... I am now just getting in the mind set of someone who doesn't give a crap about this pain.
That's a major step in the right TMS direction! |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2014 : 01:27:48
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| So stupid but I'm not even stressed about anything major but I always get this issue worse at the start of the week. I had it yesterday but when I got home it went away. But I am determined to beat this. I know I have nothing serious because it wouldn't come and go like it does. I'm even stopping going to my therapist because I just want to carry on with my life and not even give it the satisfaction of admitting there is a problem. So what if my rectum hurts. It could be worse. |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2014 : 06:57:57
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| I'm interested to hear if anyone else with this problem finds themselves clenching all the time. I also try and have at least 2 bowel movements a day. Even if my first was quite large ( pardon for the detail) I think to myself when I get this pressure surely I don't need to go again, I have already been, just ignore it. When I do go again though it does ease it off slightly. Maybe my tms is over exaggerating my feeling of needing a bowel movement |
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2014 : 10:01:37
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Originally posted by alfaman147
I'm interested to hear if anyone else with this problem finds themselves clenching all the time. I also try and have at least 2 bowel movements a day...
Clearly, you are obsessed with this particular symptom. Thus, it is serving its intended purpose. As long as you focus on it, think about it in a physical way (e.g. clenching) and seek remedies (e.g. extra bowel movements) then it is likely to continue.
As hard as it seems, you have to train yourself to ignore the symptom and stop obsessing about it. You have to focus on potential psychological triggers, not on physical causes and solutions.
As far as bowel movements are concerned, you are doing yourself a great disservice by "trying" to have bowel movements at certain times or a certain number of times per day. This is not how our body works. Our digestive system is generally efficient and takes care of itself. The only time you should have a bowel movement is when you really have to go. Your body will make that very clear. You should never force yourself to go, strain when trying to go, or sit on the toilet for extended periods trying to force a bowel movement. Any relief you believe you feel by forcing these extra bowel movements is likely a placebo effect. The fact is, this behavior is likely to lead to more issues such as hemorrhoids or "irritable bowel syndrome" (which is also TMS).
I strongly suggest you recondition yourself to stop thinking about and worrying about what is going on "down there" and find other things to focus on in your life. |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 05:06:54
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| Can tms really cause all these problems. I have to keep telling myself it can. Every so often a little nagging doubt comes floating into my head. Have I got rectal prolapse etc lol. But u keep telling myself that if I had any sort of problem or serious illness I'd be passing blood, it wouldn't come and go and it would just keep getting worse. It wouldn't wax and wane like it does. I know come Friday night when I'm having a beer and relaxing it will be fine. It's got to be a habit that I always have it worse at work and at the start of the week. Maybe even looking on this forum makes me think about it. I just want a way to not think about it any more. Need a way to distract to another part of the body or just something else. |
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Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 08:25:41
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Originally posted by alfaman147
Can tms really cause all these problems. I have to keep telling myself it can. Every so often a little nagging doubt comes floating into my head.
This is all normal. TMS is a very difficult habit to break. It takes diligence and time. You will have doubts. You will have increased symptoms, even different symptoms. Your unconscious mind will try to shake you. Even if you have doubts that the symptoms are TMS, act as if you believe 100%.
Every time you find yourself thinking about the symptom, shift your thoughts to the emotional realm. Think about what might be bothering you. Think about things going on in your life that are making you angry inside that you might not be fully facing up to. Think about your deep seeded fears. Think about all the negative stuff you can dredge up from your insides. Force yourself to think about potential psychological triggers that you might not even be aware of. Whether or not you find anything is not important. It is the act of trying that is key. This sends a message to your unconscious that despite its attempts to grab your attention with TMS symptoms, you are going to face your psychological "demons" anyway. You'd rather deal with negative emotional issues than the physical symptoms.
Do this each and every time you find yourself thinking about the symptoms. It is a reconditioning process. Over time it will become second nature, and the symptoms will naturally fade as they no longer serve their purpose. |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 09:43:46
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Alfaman, I replied to you prior, and think you missed it or chose not to answer me. It's obvious u hate your job and the pain starts when the work week starts. I'm a car guy, it seems with your years of experience as a tech u would have no problem getting a new job in your field at least in the states. U said u were bullied as a kid and it sounds like you're bullied at work--life goes on.
HAVE YOU TRIED LOOKING FOR A BETTER WORK PLACE WHERE YOU ARE APPRECIATED?
HAVE YOU DONE A SEARCH HERE AND AT THE TMS WIKI FOR SUCCESS STORIES FROM PEOPLE WITH YOUR SYMPTOM?
ARE YOU AN ALFA GUY? DO YOU RACE OR WORK ON A RACE TEAM? |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 11:00:37
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Tom, yes I'm an alfa guy. 14 years. I work for a dealership here in England. I'm quite content at my job now. I just seem to have this habit of accosiating work with this pain. I wasn't to bad last week. Almost disappeared all together. Just it seems to have come back again full throttle. Im so stupid but I had a thought of rectal prolapse last night and I think this has set it off again. I have had loads of rectal examinations and I'm sure it would of been spotted by now. Just my whole anus and abdomen feel tight and hot some how. I know I have nothing serious but can't seem to break the habit. Maybe I should stop looking on this forum as it makes me think about it. What is the physical symptoms of tms? Are my muscles actually tight? Is the discomfort real? It's bizarre. I know I'm going over old ground all the time. But I suppose the longer I have had this issue the longer it will take to get cured  |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 12:26:24
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Alfaman, if you've been repeatedly had work=ups by physicians and they don't find anything then it's likely TMS. Whenever I have a check-up and they tell me I'm healthy I feel GREAT!!! I think the term for what you have is hypochodria, not sure what the difference is between it and TMS, maybe there isn't any? I would explore that area.
I had a Alfa Graduate a year or two ago, it ran great, sold it before it didn't. Got the Abarth Cab, what a a fun little bomb of a bug. Talking to a tuner to improve the handling to keep up with the power, then adding another 40-50hp. want it to handle a little more Lotus like. Hot on getting a Mini-Moke to have the fastest golf-cart around, they're getting scarce.
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/12/2014 : 13:11:13
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I am a hypochondriac and I always have been. I think that because I am so focused on the whole pelvic and rectal arra that is why I suffer with this pain. I suppose it's like someone focusing on another part of the body and get migranes. I'm an alfa man through and through hence my username. Had gtv's and spiders
I don't know if they have them in the states but I currently drive a Mito. Anyway thanks Tom for the pep talk. Yes I know that my issues are psychological. When I'm absorbed in something else I'm not too bad. But hey Ho.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2014 : 14:36:55
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Originally posted by alfaman147
I think that because I am so focused on the whole pelvic and rectal arra that is why I suffer with this pain.
Bingo. |
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andy64tms
USA
589 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 14:58:05
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Hi Alfaman,
In line with what Dave said about thinking, I would recommend “writing” of some description. This act re-enforces your thoughts from and to your sub conscious. It also keeps track of what you have found out; similar to taking those compression readings on an engine. I note you are “content today at your job now” and the association of pain with work may perhaps be derived from past bullying you mentioned previously. To reveal these issues or others it would be beneficial to jot down a few thoughts and how you feel about this.
Tom has mentioned the TMS Wiki web site. They have a free “Structured Education Program” on their web site. I recommend this highly, as the early exercises show you how to write, and even provide forms.
Here is the link to their web site:
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/The_Tension_Myositis_Syndrome_Wiki
Here is a link to Howard Schubiner, I believe you have one of his books. He also has very good videos on U-tube.
http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/members/howard-schubiner-md.2335/
Tom, I had many second hand Minis in my youth. I became an expert at doing them up. I ended up building a fiberglass kit car based on the Mini chassis called: “Mini Marcos”. I was not such an expert driver however as one night after a party I crashed it into a lamp post.
I recommend a book “ The MINI Storey” by Giles Chapman available on Amazon.The Mini Moke is mentioned in it.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years, is almost gone.
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2014 : 23:19:45
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Originally posted by andy64tms
Tom, I had many second hand Minis in my youth. I became an expert at doing them up. I ended up building a fiberglass kit car based on the Mini chassis called: “Mini Marcos”. I was not such an expert driver however as one night after a party I crashed it into a lamp post.
I recommend a book “ The MINI Storey” by Giles Chapman available on Amazon.The Mini Moke is mentioned in it.
Hi Andy, yeah I had a couple of Cooper S's a few decades back, the most fun I've had on four wheels and amazingly roomy and utilitarian for such a small package. Finally gave them away when they were more rust then metal. Was thinking about getting one of the new BMW ones but it's just not the same. I did get the Abarth Cabrio and it feels quite mini-like, going to do the suspension over to make it even more Mini like. Always wanted a Mini 'vert and figured out the Moke is the Mini-'vert, thinking about the build is a positive distraction, probably put in a roll-bar, not much protection on them.
I recall the Marcos, I think it resembled the Saab Sonnet if I recollect, I'll have to google image it.
Cheers,
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2014 : 01:27:19
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| I swear it's my bloody anal sphincter that is chronically tense all the time. I can feel it flutter as it relaxes briefly and then tenses up again. I'm not even doing this voluntary lol. How the hell am I doing this to my ass without even knowing about it? Anyone have any tips on how to stop myself subconsciously clenching it. I'm starting to write down my frustrations and fears. But it seems to be a muscle that I have no control over. This tms is some strange problem. |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2014 : 06:28:03
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Alfaman, your question is the definition of TMS! Your subconscious is doing it to you involuntarily unbeknownst to your conscious. All the great TMS thinkers agree to make yourself aware of the gremlin's strategy and take hold of your destiny. Multi-tasking is a myth, choose alternative distractions of your own making. Discard the shadow self of the unconscious, take your destiny into your own hands--there's some good free porn site's out there.
BTW, we don't get your car the MiTo stateside. Is it a stick? To me if a car doesn't have a clutch i'm not interested in it, my left foot wants in on the action. The new Alfa C4, is just reaching our shores and is getting a lot of raves from the auto-press. That carbon-fibre tub looks cool. Should give the Boxters and Loti a run for their money, but seems to only come with an automatic trans--paddles to me is still an automatic. If they make it into a 'vert with a manual I'd be interested, it does look sexy. |
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alfaman147
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2014 : 07:14:41
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Cheers Tom, I'm such an idiot lol. Yes mito is a stick shift but ucan get a tiptronic dual clutch. Yes the 4c is an awesome car. Very fast, handles fantastically and looks amazing. I am lucky enough to have driven quite a few. I went to the maserati factory in Italy to get some training on it when it was released. Will have to post some pictures on here if I can figure out how. I tell u though it's good to see I'm not the only one out there with pain caused by the mind. And yes I find the porn a good distraction haha  |
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tennis tom
USA
4746 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2014 : 15:40:12
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Originally posted by andy64tms
So, are we talking about the differences between Manual or Automatic sex? If so, I proclaim Alfaman healed. 
Manual is pretty low maintenance, just change the lube according to the manufacturer's recommendations, usually every 30,000 miles or every five years whichever occurs first. A good quality ninety weight lubricant should work. I like Redline MT-90. If you like to go automatic or paddles this web site has some good tools:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/good-vibrations-san-francisco |
Edited by - tennis tom on 11/14/2014 15:49:58 |
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